Thought we were talking commercial TSS not best duck loads ,,,my mistake
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Commercial TSS loads?
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bryguy
Old Mossy Horns
Yeah sorry I sidetracked this a little bit. I am new to the TSS stuff and since I do not turkey hunt I was interested in this thread because of the pattern density and range it gives
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I know a few that use it on ducks some - dark thirty does I think
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darkthirty
Old Mossy Horns
Yeah I’ll take blame for the sidetrack. Haha. Not a turkey hunter either unless I could shoot 5 or 6 in a morning and shoot’em flying.
I’m not a fan of the duplex loads. If I’m spending the money on TSS, I feel like I’m poisoning the load by adding steel to it. It works for a lot of guys, but I’ll never do it. Just don’t seem right to me to spend that kinda money on something as superior as TSS is in ballistic and energy performance and mixing it with something that’s extremely poor performing in both ballistics and killing as steel is.
I’m not a fan of the duplex loads. If I’m spending the money on TSS, I feel like I’m poisoning the load by adding steel to it. It works for a lot of guys, but I’ll never do it. Just don’t seem right to me to spend that kinda money on something as superior as TSS is in ballistic and energy performance and mixing it with something that’s extremely poor performing in both ballistics and killing as steel is.
bryguy
Old Mossy Horns
so do you just buffer your waterfowl loads and what do you use as buffer? Maybe we could just go to the reloading forum and discuss it there, so as not to further sidetrack the turkey thread here.
bryguy
Old Mossy Horns
https://nchuntandfish.com/forums/showthread.php?141104-TSS-waterfowl-loads&p=1896461#post1896461
New thread in the reloading section to discuss it
New thread in the reloading section to discuss it
darkthirty
Old Mossy Horns
It’s turkeys.........they need a thread with something of actual importance......
It’s turkeys.........they need a thread with something of actual importance......
congrats,,,,you got the "made me laugh" post of the day,,,,,good one
FishHunt
Old Mossy Horns
Apex Ammo has them in 10, 12, 16, 20, 28 and 410 sizes. And by the pricing they have they are right proud of them.
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If the projectiles are TSS it's not so much they are "proud of the" as the cost of components are high
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I looked at Apex earlier in the year. Then I realized an animal can only get so dead...
It didn't seem to me like they were capitalizing on the biggest attraction of TSS - the ability to shoot a much lighter shell, less recoil, with better performance. Their 12 GA turkey shells are still 3" and 3 1/2", shooting 2 1/2 oz. loads! I've already got concussion-inducing shells that kill them dead at 1/3 the price. The only reason I'd pay that money is to shoot a 2 3/4 shell with a lighter payload and keep the same effectiveness.
It didn't seem to me like they were capitalizing on the biggest attraction of TSS - the ability to shoot a much lighter shell, less recoil, with better performance. Their 12 GA turkey shells are still 3" and 3 1/2", shooting 2 1/2 oz. loads! I've already got concussion-inducing shells that kill them dead at 1/3 the price. The only reason I'd pay that money is to shoot a 2 3/4 shell with a lighter payload and keep the same effectiveness.
I agree with you, but guess there are plenty of folks who are in "more is better" category,,,,
gregor187
Six Pointer
what I want to see if shooting the standard size payload with a modified choke
will open up the pattern up close but still hold a killing pattern
out to say 50 yds.
To me that would be the perfect thing for the ones that get
in close on you and still being able to clean harvest at normal yardage.
darkthirty
Old Mossy Horns
After patterning at 30 and 40 yds. I am positive My compnchoke light modified with my 28 gauge 1oz would hammer a turkey at 50+ yds.
hawglips
Old Mossy Horns
I find it difficult not to keep trying out new ideas with TSS. My wife wonders what I'm doing when I sit at the loading bench for hours at a time messing with the calculator, components and notepad. And then to see what a new idea does at the range. And then it's like Christmas as I wait for the lab report on them. It's an amazing shot that you can do things with that just can't be done by other less dense shot. For example, in the 20 ga, I have loads from 9/16 oz to 2-1/8 oz. Each one all along that spectrum work well. It's amazing stuff to work with.
darkthirty
Old Mossy Horns
Does your wife realize you have a cult like following amongst rednecks and shotgun nerds?!?!?
turkeyfoot
Old Mossy Horns
Even 3 1/2 inch in 2 and 1/2 oz load in that 9 shot enough pellets to make 3 adeq shells it is overkill
hawglips
Old Mossy Horns
I was looking for some patterns of that load from about 5 years ago, but couldn't put my hands on it. Anyway, 500+ in a 10" circle at 40 yds is typical. One guy got 601.....
hawglips
Old Mossy Horns
But here it is with 7-1/2s at 60 yds....
gregor187
Six Pointer
But here it is with 7-1/2s at 60 yds....
Hal, have you tried any factory supplied chokes and tested as I have memtioned above
hawglips
Old Mossy Horns
Does your wife realize you have a cult like following amongst rednecks and shotgun nerds?!?!?
She just knows I have buddies over to load shells with me from time to time.
hawglips
Old Mossy Horns
There are a lot of chokes that work real well.