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    Quote Originally Posted by darkthirty View Post
    Youre correct. I do live in Tennessee but spent the first 30 years hunting in NC......a lot. We hunted everywhere, public, private outfitter. Now I just go out to west TN a couple times a year. Nice to be somewhere where there are actually ducks.
    No one I know cares about Sunday hunting. I guess that's why we were always as successful as we were. If we found ducks on private land, we left'em alone and let'em build. If we found ducks on public land, we shot the he!! out of'em the following morning. We scouted a lot.
    And here's the number one thing. If we couldn't find ducks on public land or private land..........we simply did not go. We found something else to do. It's that simple. We'd go shoot crows or rabbit hunt or spend time with our families!! I honestly believe most duck hunters nowadays are more concerned with everyone else seeing that they went duck hunting, than they are killing a duck. It ain't the end of the world. I guess that's why Sunday hunting don't really bother me. It's just a duck the same way it's just a deer.
    Not much there I disagree with. I'll adjust and be OK.
    But, you know, in the last five yrs I've consistently watched ducks increasingly scared to lite with other live ducks out in the open sound. Circle a raft 5 times, lite 80 yds away and do a careful swim in. Pretty much everyone agrees pressure is a factor to some degree. In my opinion, ducks here are already over pressured. It comes down to do you add pressure to an already overpressured resource for the purpose of providing more opportunity to the folks harvesting the resource? There are valid opinions on both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus View Post
    Woodmoose I think most folks get a 'struck nerve' when someone that doesn't know them from Adam implies they are lying to cover an agenda. Spin it however you want but that's what you did.

    Did I SAY you hung out with the " after deer season" crowd?
    Didn't think so. Cool how that works huh? I can clearly imply that but then claim I didnt actually say that.

    NC, where we live and hunt, is in the Atlantic Flyway so it would seem logical to compare it to other states in the Atlantic Flyway. If you want to compare apples to oranges carry on.

    You're right, we have differing opinions, and that's fine. I respect your opinion just as you state it. But that's a two way street...

    Gus - never intended to impugn your or anyone elses integrity or call anyone a liar,,,shame you read that from my feeble post,,,,I was more refering to underlying (call it subconcious) reasons,,,,but fair enough - I upset you and did not intend to - so I regret that

    I'll bow out, as this wasn't even a thread on Sundays, others brought it up, but I also participated. As I said, don't really have a dog in NC's vestiges of Blue Laws,,,,thouught they were silly when I came here in 1980 and still do,,,,but that's me - I also developed other options as I don't let things like that get in the way of a good duck hunt.

    Good luck to those folks who want to keep Ducks safe on Sundays,,,,


    Quote Originally Posted by Gus View Post
    ,,,, There are valid opinions on both sides.
    agreed


    now to get back on topic

    Quote Originally Posted by chevync20 View Post
    Nope, still working on it. I guess I need to start heading west instead of dinking and dunking here in NC. We always diver hunt, just trying to change things up this year.
    I've had some fun diver hunts,,,,hunted some impoundments down at the coast,,,but except for some select options I've moved to other duck options,,,,,have a surprising good time just south of me,,,,,but where I am at in NC is not for the duck hunter of faint heart when it comes to PRESSURE!!

    West is an option,,,,,but there are others as well,,,,depends on what you want to get out of your duck hunts

    To me, life (and the seasons) are too short to waste on boring hunts,,,,unfortunately I don't have the (current) luxury of living in a good (or even decent) duck area,,,so I travel some,,,north, south, east and west,,,to duck areas of yore, and some (relatively) undiscovered gems (so far),,,,,

    good luck Sir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus View Post
    Not much there I disagree with. I'll adjust and be OK.
    But, you know, in the last five yrs I've consistently watched ducks increasingly scared to lite with other live ducks out in the open sound. Circle a raft 5 times, lite 80 yds away and do a careful swim in. Pretty much everyone agrees pressure is a factor to some degree. In my opinion, ducks here are already over pressured. It comes down to do you add pressure to an already overpressured resource for the purpose of providing more opportunity to the folks harvesting the resource? There are valid opinions on both sides.
    Understood. It's something wherever you go. In west TN, its complaining about refuges. Guys constantly complaining about so and so refuge is holding xx000 birds or so and so landowner had 50,000 mallards on his place and he never hunts it. But the thing is, its the same people complaining year after year all the while, other guys go about killing big numbers year after year on public ground. Haha
    I live in Tennessee, but my home is North By God Carolina!
    Just because you do not agree with my opinion, it does not make me wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkthirty View Post
    Understood. It's something wherever you go. In west TN, its complaining about refuges. Guys constantly complaining about so and so refuge is holding xx000 birds or so and so landowner had 50,000 mallards on his place and he never hunts it. But the thing is, its the same people complaining year after year all the while, other guys go about killing big numbers year after year on public ground. Haha
    That's everything hunting and fishing, isn't it?

    If it isn't the locals being turds, its the refuges, if it isn't the commercial fishermen ruining it, its the seasons that are screwed up, if it isn't the yankees paying to play and pricing someone else out of their hunt, its the WRC mismanaging the resource. I have seen that kind of blame tossed around for literally everything from crappie to cobia, from Deer to Ducks. Meanwhile other guys go out and get it done no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JONOV View Post
    That's everything hunting and fishing, isn't it?

    If it isn't the locals being turds, its the refuges, if it isn't the commercial fishermen ruining it, its the seasons that are screwed up, if it isn't the yankees paying to play and pricing someone else out of their hunt, its the WRC mismanaging the resource. I have seen that kind of blame tossed around for literally everything from crappie to cobia, from Deer to Ducks. Meanwhile other guys go out and get it done no matter what.
    I believe there is some truth on both sides. You cannot consistently kill big bucks where there are none. however if you want it bad enough you can get a private place where they exist; takes a lot of time, energy, resources and money. Not everyone, especially young guys just starting a family have the time and money. there were some guys who consistently killed nice bucks by shooting them from the road on my farms. However, their families have not seen them for a while and are still wondering why they don't write.

    No matter how good a caller you are and how good a shot you are you cannot kill ducks if you do not have access to a place they want to go in the LST of daylight. Finding and getting access to those spots takes time, energy resources, sometimes luck or money.

    regarding fish, you obviously do not live near the coast and fish in Pamlico sound. My friends and I usually get it done on trout, flounder and reds. However it is impossible when you get on the water right at light and commercial fishermen have gill net stretched on every bank you usually fish. We fish almost every day the wind is right. I am limited to 4 fish over 15 inches and the netters basically have no limit. for the past three weeks they have dominated many of the banks, bays and tributaries in Hyde. No other state allows it.
    where I usually catch a limit we don't get a strike. I guess I could go to Louisiana but that is not very practical. If you are so good as to "get it done no matter what" I would appreciate some advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydemarsh View Post
    I believe there is some truth on both sides. You cannot consistently kill big bucks where there are none. however if you want it bad enough you can get a private place where they exist; takes a lot of time, energy, resources and money. Not everyone, especially young guys just starting a family have the time and money. there were some guys who consistently killed nice bucks by shooting them from the road on my farms. However, their families have not seen them for a while and are still wondering why they don't write.

    No matter how good a caller you are and how good a shot you are you cannot kill ducks if you do not have access to a place they want to go in the LST of daylight. Finding and getting access to those spots takes time, energy resources, sometimes luck or money.

    regarding fish, you obviously do not live near the coast and fish in Pamlico sound. My friends and I usually get it done on trout, flounder and reds. However it is impossible when you get on the water right at light and commercial fishermen have gill net stretched on every bank you usually fish. We fish almost every day the wind is right. I am limited to 4 fish over 15 inches and the netters basically have no limit. for the past three weeks they have dominated many of the banks, bays and tributaries in Hyde. No other state allows it.
    where I usually catch a limit we don't get a strike. I guess I could go to Louisiana but that is not very practical. If you are so good as to "get it done no matter what" I would appreciate some advice.
    I've never claimed to be one of those guys. But I know a guy that routinely shoots a nice buck on Game Lands every year; not Iowa level deer, but nice mature ones all the same. I think he walks much further, more quietly, leaving earlier in the morning, and takes many more hikes in the off season. I've never learned not to get turned around in the woods at night, and can't move without falling over like he can. Honestly, I get turned around walking to my treestand 3/4 miles away from my car in the dark early morning.

    When I lived in Minnesota, I duck hunted a lot more, I had two friends that seemed to get "on the ex" a lot more for ducks and geese. I would burn twice the gas, spend twice the time scouting and knocking on doors, they just had a better idea about where to be and when to be there than I did, maybe knew better what to look for or how to use a weather report? These guys didn't have a better boat or access, that's for sure.

    Despite the Ojibwe netting the lake to oblivion, there are guys that can go out and catch Walleye after Walleye on Lake Mille Lacs right now.

    I can go knock around Wilmington and might catch a few fish here and there. My wife's Uncle will go out and fill live wells every time.

    As to access on the Pamlico, you are correct, I don't live down there and I don't know what its like fishing out there. I do know how aggravating commercial nets can be, I've dealt with that a few times.

    And yes, resources, in the form of time, money, equipment, family with land, all contribute.

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