You do realize this is the portion of the state where depredation is widespread and farmers shoot them by the droves don't you? Maybe there is a reason why there is declines in some counties.Because some eastern NC counties are seeing real declines in the deer population and the WRC wants to stabilize the herd.
That is what you get with liberal antlerless seasons since 1997.
Now its time to back off a little.
And there you have it, the double talk quote of the day.
What is your point, that they should limit the harvest of deer when they are still being slaughtered in fields because there are still so many of them that the land won't carry them and they have to flock to the fields to eat? You don't think that maybe just maybe that all the mast bearing trees being removed and replaced by pines play a part in this?Right so whats your point?
That farmers still killing depredating deer are going to thwart what the WRC wants to do if it goes ahead with changes?
What is your point, that they should limit the harvest of deer when they are still being slaughtered in fields because there are still so many of them that the land won't carry them and they have to flock to the fields to eat? You don't think that maybe just maybe that all the mast bearing trees being removed and replaced by pines play a part in this?
Why cut back on hunter harvest and seasons when they still have to be removed because of depredation? How much time have you spent afield east of Raleigh?
Oh, so it is the farmers fault?I'm not the one saying they should
I'm saying that is what the WRC wants to do
I dont care if farmers derail any changes down east
Oh, so it is the farmers fault?
It took us years to reduce the deer population on some of the property I hunt and that really didn't happen until the yotes moved in. The farmers couldn't go anything. This was not on just a couple hundred acres it was the couple thousand acres I hunted and the few more thousands that surrounded it. Now after EHD the population is having a hard time bouncing back. We didn't need the NCWRC to tell us to cut back on killing does and most other hunters that face the same situation don't either and if they don't heed the warning signs you want have to worry about them killing any deer. Unless hunters are complete idiots, of which I don't believe, it is a self rectifying situation. That is of course if they like to hunt deer. In a situation like this it is much better to shoot all bucks and no does. 4 doe tags, if filled are still to many does to be killing in some of the places I hunt and may not be enough in others. I hunt multiple leases and in two clubs. Totaling up somewhere around 13,000 acres. On all this property there are club request or by laws to have a much more restrictive doe harvest than the NCWRC. Then there are the other clubs around that are restricting the doe harvest as well that adds 10's of thousands of acres. My point is the NCWRC needs to leave harvest limits alone in the east. Hunting clubs and land owners/managers are smart enough to manage the deer on their property to have a deer population they desire. I would have to say they control enough land to have an impact.
A two buck limit is just a feel good regulation, I'm willing to bet just as many bucks will be killed.
The last line says it all......The limit will keep the honest folks to 2 bucks.....then there are those that are gonna do whats they want!!! I will make sure they get reported if I see the violation......just the way I roll!!
I was not referring to illegal kills.
Well, I guess I'm messing up everybody's numbers in the Central Region cause I haven't killed a buck since 2011.
I have hunted in Halifax county for 40 years and we have never had a farmer "shoot them by the droves". I think there is a misconception of how many farmers actually stay up late to go shoot deer......most of them are in bed by dark thirty and up before the sun.....they aint got time to focus on deer if they have any decent sized operation.You do realize this is the portion of the state where depredation is widespread and farmers shoot them by the droves don't you? Maybe there is a reason why there is declines in some counties.
I have hunted in Halifax county for 40 years and we have never had a farmer "shoot them by the droves". I think there is a misconception of how many farmers actually stay up late to go shoot deer......most of them are in bed by dark thirty and up before the sun.....they aint got time to focus on deer if they have any decent sized operation.
I never said that there weren't any doing it........just a lot of BS guesses on the fact they are all over doing it.....I gots to see the numbers before I believe it!!!There are plenty of farmers that do it. I had a small farmer next to our land that killed 30-40 in one field every year. Sounded like a dang war every evening. Unfortunately the herd has not rebounded from that and the EHD. I killed the first deer that had been killed on that farm in 8 or 10 years last year.
I never said that there weren't any doing it........just a lot of BS guesses on the fact they are all over doing it.....I gots to see the numbers before I believe it!!!
There are no numbers as it is not tracked. Any number you see will be just an estimate as you stated. We will never know how many get killed that way. If farmers want to kill all 40 deer using their peanut fields in July/ August they will.
I will say the farmers aren't shooting as many as they were, mainly because there aren't near as many deer. Let the numbers get back like we all want and you will start hearing the long barrell going off again in August.