Turkey season changes adopted

turkeyfoot

Old Mossy Horns
Last spring I hunted 14 days (Not counting 3 days taking youth). I missed the first 9 or 10 days of the NC season (due to unfortunate timing of family matters). In spite of graduating into the work when I want to lifestyle. Of those 14 days, 10 were on public land.

Had a lot of firsts though.

First very up-close curious bear encounter.
First time killing a turkey that was decoyed in
First time being skunked in Utah (broke a streak of success dating back to 2000)
First time hunting ID
First time being skunked in a multi-state Western swing (UT and ID)
First time ruining a well thought out and (almost) flawlessly executed flanking move and set up by slipping on a rain coat when it started pouring rain - at the exact second they popped out right where I was planning they'd be...
First time hearing/watching a one-note gobble in FL
First time killing a multi-beard (2) bird with 1-1/2" spurs
First time having just-hatched poults run by me while I was trying to kill their (possible) father

But I loved every minute of it. And whatever regulations come our way, I imagine I'll still love it. It's embedded in the bone marrow...
Didn't get one in ID I see but I'm curious on your opinion of the state it's on me and @Brad_Colvin very high want to do list but it's a haul out there 0lus having drive by several states that are on upswing in birds right now keeps me stopping short. And definitely spot on they can regulation change these places to death but I'll still be there can't stand not to. Hopefully you'll start some new good streaks this spring.
 

oldest school

Old Mossy Horns
If I learned nothing else form @chesson over the years, the 5 min you see on TV or Youtube took a lot more than 5 min. Me thinks you are giving those you see online way too much credit.

The limit is the limit, and only a small % of people actually kill the limit. If the season dates are biologically based (debatable but hard to argue they are not given the increases in harvest) and the limit is sound then the population fluctuations are based on other, non-hunting, factors. We have seen it before.. populations boom then they bust or fall off. I have seen it with deer, I have seen it with turkeys.. I have seen it happen slowly over time and I have seen it happen in a couple of seasons. Nature will find its balance. Personally, I worry much more about pesticides killing the turkeys spring food or herbicides having some effect on reproduction rates.. or even more so about the weather during hatching season and predators than I do about hunters.

Are you still one that thinks that we shot the Bison into almost extinction?
Methinks shooting them out of deer stands is easy regardless of how long Iit takes for one to wander by.
The bison is an interesting comparison
They were doing ok and then there were more people with better methods.
Sound familiar?

Those in denial on the impact of hunting pressure and methods are hoping Mother Nature can keep up.

We shall see.
 

turkeyfoot

Old Mossy Horns
Methinks shooting them out of deer stands is easy regardless of how long Iit takes for one to wander by.
The bison is an interesting comparison
They were doing ok and then there were more people with better methods.
Sound familiar?

Those in denial on the impact of hunting pressure and methods are hoping Mother Nature can keep up.

We shall see.
I don't think most are in denial I'd venture say anyone who hunts regularly last 30-40 years would totally agree on Increased pressure not sure on percentage but I wouldn't hesitate guess up by over 50% in my limited experience anyhow. Same with methods but that ain't changing unless states make the Reg changes and several have made minor but their hands are gonna be tied on some things like blinds they ain't ever going away. But at same time just be fair there are numerous states that this isn't at moment panning out as they are simply on fire several after being left for dead in magazines. Only time will tell where they head. Also their are few states that have declining turkey license sales might be more if everyone would keep up with it like should and couple those broke records with less sales so that is a definite sign that production is surpassing methods and pressure. And I'm well aware there are other states on other end the spectrum. Best advice go where it's hot and don't where it's not.
 

oldest school

Old Mossy Horns
I don't think most are in denial I'd venture say anyone who hunts regularly last 30-40 years would totally agree on Increased pressure not sure on percentage but I wouldn't hesitate guess up by over 50% in my limited experience anyhow. Same with methods but that ain't changing unless states make the Reg changes and several have made minor but their hands are gonna be tied on some things like blinds they ain't ever going away. But at same time just be fair there are numerous states that this isn't at moment panning out as they are simply on fire several after being left for dead in magazines. Only time will tell where they head. Also their are few states that have declining turkey license sales might be more if everyone would keep up with it like should and couple those broke records with less sales so that is a definite sign that production is surpassing methods and pressure. And I'm well aware there are other states on other end the spectrum. Best advice go where it's hot and don't where it's not.
Best advice that I know of is quit worrying about possums and the hatch and the habitat
Just give them a chance by restricting use of advantages that make it a child’s game.
We all can control that and don’t need the state to control us.
But y’all say that ain’t happening
Again we shall see.
It sure did with the deer. Just sayin.
 

turkeyfoot

Old Mossy Horns
Best advice that I know of is quit worrying about possums and the hatch and the habitat
Just give them a chance by restricting use of advantages that make it a child’s game.
We all can control that and don’t need the state to control us.
But y’all say that ain’t happening
Again we shall see.
It sure did with the deer. Just sayin.
All I said ain't happening was the blinds you disagree with that? Other stuff is on table to an extent as I said some states have already restricted some methods. Not sure why states that are struggling can't do all you said habitat improving, predator control and most important always worry about hatch that's 1 thing I'm biggest proponent of it will always control population hell o worry about and keep up with hatches in states I'll not step foot in for years😁 on hatch note missouri realesed Sumner survey just absolutely sucked that fears came true the floods seemed to negate the cicadas effect at least somewhat damn shame they had so much potential co.ing off 22 good and 23 great hatch. Northeast part state faired best if I'm not mistaken missed the flooding this summer. M8ther nature controlling again I swear they were poised for a 55,000ish give otlr take harvest in 26.
 

Downeast

Twelve Pointer
Ever since my wife and I got a little ill from eating Wild Turkey I haven't shot anymore. So season changes have little impact on me. I asked the neighbors if I happened to shoot one whether they wanted it and they politely said no. I guess everyone wants to kill their own bird. I enjoy calling them in anyway, and I can do that without a license. My wife called in a big gobbler this spring with her phone! She got some great pictures too. A lot harder to get a good pic at 25 feet than to shoot one at 25 yards. If she carried a gun instead of a camera there wouldn't be a living thing on the entire property. :LOL:

You guys get out there this spring and have fun!
 
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Firedog

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Methinks shooting them out of deer stands is easy regardless of how long Iit takes for one to wander by.
The bison is an interesting comparison
They were doing ok and then there were more people with better methods.
Sound familiar?

Those in denial on the impact of hunting pressure and methods are hoping Mother Nature can keep up.

We shall see.
you can continue to believe the Buffalo lie if you want to. More people likely had a direct impact, and hunting was not nothing, but the math and records say that it was not the reason for the decline. Lots of good information in the article below. Not the only research I have seen but worth a read.


One of the reasons I worry more about disease and depletion of food sources relative to Turkey more than I do hunters.
 

hawglips

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Didn't get one in ID I see but I'm curious on your opinion of the state it's on me and @Brad_Colvin very high want to do list but it's a haul out there 0lus having drive by several states that are on upswing in birds right now keeps me stopping short. And definitely spot on they can regulation change these places to death but I'll still be there can't stand not to. Hopefully you'll start some new good streaks this spring.
I’ll go back to try again. Next time will can more or less hit the ground running so it should be better for us.

I don’t think it’s any better than states you’re driving through..
 

woodmoose

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Didn't get one in ID I see but I'm curious on your opinion of the state it's on me and @Brad_Colvin very high want to do list but it's a haul out there 0lus having drive by several states that are on upswing in birds right now keeps me stopping short. And definitely spot on they can regulation change these places to death but I'll still be there can't stand not to. Hopefully you'll start some new good streaks this spring.

I was doing a solo elk hunt in the Frank church wilderness many winters ago and the only dang animal I saw were turkeys,,,,way back in there
 

turkeyfoot

Old Mossy Horns
I’ll go back to try again. Next time will can more or less hit the ground running so it should be better for us.

I don’t think it’s any better than states you’re driving through..
I was doing a solo elk hunt in the Frank church wilderness many winters ago and the only dang animal I saw were turkeys,,,,way back in there
Think it'll be one them trips as much for adventure in New place as anything. I'm looking at 27 to go depending on winter conditions prior as far as kill. already got 25 and 26 took up. Folks I've talked to keep hear 1 thing frequently lots birds on private and very spread out on public so figure pretty much the normal for most anywhere.
 
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