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oldest school

Old Mossy Horns
You guys must fish a different part of Lake Norman than I've ever been to. While I will agree that there are some good sized spots in Norman, they are few and far between. And I don't think spots have "saved" Lake Norman, unless you consider decimating the largemouth population as saving. They are fun and easy fish to catch, but I think they outgrew the forage base at Norman a long time ago.
you may not have ever had to fish Norman pre spots?
the LMB were hammer handles.
now norman routinely hosts national tourneys with spots being a player in most bags.
I haven't heard many if any complain of the decimation of the sorry LMB population pre spots.
guides can always produce action , they are almost as easy as the crappie to catch, not much to not like.
 

mbh78

Eight Pointer
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you may not have ever had to fish Norman pre spots?
the LMB were hammer handles.
now norman routinely hosts national tourneys with spots being a player in most bags.
I haven't heard many if any complain of the decimation of the sorry LMB population pre spots.
guides can always produce action , they are almost as easy as the crappie to catch, not much to not like.
I did fish fish Norman pre-spots. It was basically like it is now, except now it's spots instead of largemouth. Numbers are better now, but the average size is not much different in my opinion. The guides do always produce action, but that doesn't mean they are producing size. If you follow those national tourneys, most of the winner's bags will be comprised of largemouth, or at least a good portion of it will be. There are still good largemouth in the lake, but the are harder to find, especially if you are only there occasionally. You can definitely have some fun with the spots for sure, but after 30 or so 12-14 inchers, it gets old. I like to feel 'Ol Big pull my string every now and then. :)
 

oldest school

Old Mossy Horns
I did fish fish Norman pre-spots. It was basically like it is now, except now it's spots instead of largemouth. Numbers are better now, but the average size is not much different in my opinion. The guides do always produce action, but that doesn't mean they are producing size. If you follow those national tourneys, most of the winner's bags will be comprised of largemouth, or at least a good portion of it will be. There are still good largemouth in the lake, but the are harder to find, especially if you are only there occasionally. You can definitely have some fun with the spots for sure, but after 30 or so 12-14 inchers, it gets old. I like to feel 'Ol Big pull my string every now and then. :)
when I had to fish norman it was due to tournament trails visiting there. We would have full fields of bass master classic contenders and winners folks like david fritts, woo daves, that crowd,
They couldn't catch "ol bigs" in norman: nobody did. you could win with ten weighing 15 lbs. Now with a five fish limit that size wont win.
So that's my personal bias on spots saving norman. Night and day difference.
 

darkthirty

Old Mossy Horns
So if wildlife took off restrictions on spots do you think it would bring them back in check? Do you think I enough people would keep them to make a difference?


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Well.........if you look at TN’s stance on spotted bass, I’d say the answer to your question would be no only a no, but heeeeelllllllllllll no.
Too many “bass fishermen” have been brainwashed into thinking all bass regardless of type, should be thrown back “so we can catch this girl again”.................it don’t matter if it’s a pond (that thinking has ruined many a farm pond), river, lake or reservoir.........
 

Justin

Old Mossy Horns
Well.........if you look at TN’s stance on spotted bass, I’d say the answer to your question would be no only a no, but heeeeelllllllllllll no.
Too many “bass fishermen” have been brainwashed into thinking all bass regardless of type, should be thrown back “so we can catch this girl again”.................it don’t matter if it’s a pond (that thinking has ruined many a farm pond), river, lake or reservoir.........
Coons gotta eat.... though I feel bad feeding the masked bandits such rubbish
 

Mack in N.C.

Old Mossy Horns
In the Flint in Georgia most guys kill em .....Shoal bass are king there and the spotted bass are either cooked or made into osprey food. Awesome river.
 

darkthirty

Old Mossy Horns
You would
Coons gotta eat.... though I feel bad feeding the masked bandits such rubbish
You wouldn’t believe how many times we’d go shock a pond only to tell the owners they need to keep some bass. You’d think we’d called their momma a whore. Lol
 

oldest school

Old Mossy Horns
I think that there are plenty of non brain washed bass killers out there to take up the catch and release crowd's slack.
My experience is in contrast to yalls on people not keeping bass.
I have seen the greed and the pond poaching/raping and the pond stocking from lakes and the stringers 10 ft long full of 10" bass.
Just my bias. based on my experience.
I will say that given todays tools and the pressure and the info it wouldn't take very long to really bottom it out if catch and release wasn't the norm.
the poor coon bait cannot escape now.
 

dc bigdaddy

Old Mossy Horns
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The bass from those muddy waters in the western part of the state might not be worth eating, but those in the brackish water down east taste pretty good.
 

MJ74

Old Mossy Horns
I thought spotted bass had always been in the river. Seems like I had heard of people catching them on occasion, but I could be mistaken.

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nccatfisher

Old Mossy Horns
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I thought spotted bass had always been in the river. Seems like I had heard of people catching them on occasion, but I could be mistaken.

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Their in the upper part of the yadkin, you can catch them from Idols dam up regularly.
 

Duckmauler dhc

Six Pointer
You guys must fish a different part of Lake Norman than I've ever been to. While I will agree that there are some good sized spots in Norman, they are few and far between. And I don't think spots have "saved" Lake Norman, unless you consider decimating the largemouth population as saving. They are fun and easy fish to catch, but I think they outgrew the forage base at Norman a long time ago.
Lake Norman was a bass desert before the spots came along. No one likes it, no one wanted to fish it. The largemouth in that lake are 100 times healthier now than they were before the spots. And it has some huge spots in it, you just have to figure them out to catch them consistently. I've been saying for years it is the best lake in the state. Those little green ditch pickles are boring after you catch smallies and spots. I know that they don't do well with the smallmouth population, but they cohabitate very well with the largies. Norman and Hartwell are classic examples of that as well as several other lakes in the southeast. Spots are the best thing that ever happened to some of our lakes. I wish the Alabama strained spots would get introduced to some more of our lakes.
 

Mack in N.C.

Old Mossy Horns
Lake Norman was a bass desert before the spots came along. No one likes it, no one wanted to fish it. The largemouth in that lake are 100 times healthier now than they were before the spots. And it has some huge spots in it, you just have to figure them out to catch them consistently. I've been saying for years it is the best lake in the state. Those little green ditch pickles are boring after you catch smallies and spots. I know that they don't do well with the smallmouth population, but they cohabitate very well with the largies. Norman and Hartwell are classic examples of that as well as several other lakes in the southeast. Spots are the best thing that ever happened to some of our lakes. I wish the Alabama strained spots would get introduced to some more of our lakes.
They do not do well with some populations of largemouths. Cape fear below buckhorn being one example where the largemouth have been knocked back.
 

CRC

Old Mossy Horns
Are the largemouth in LKN doing better because alewives and bluebacks were also illegally introduced there?
 

Duckmauler dhc

Six Pointer
As for the cape fear......Idk about that body of water......I've never fished it although I know people who have and do and it's never been known as a bass fishing mecca to begin with to my knowledge. I fish a lot of lakes where there are both spots and largemouth and in all of those lakes they do really well together. I could name off a double digits lake list. Norman is just one of them. But it doesn't bother me that so many people hate spots.....I go to Norman any day if the week and hardly see a soul......I try going to ttown, badin or another largemouth lake and constantly fish behind someone. Y'all can have the green trash fish. A 2.5 lb spot will pull a 6 lb across the lake. But it's all in what you like......some people spend their time looking for 5-8 lb largemouth, I spend my time looking for 2-5 lb spots and big smallies when I can. And I'll take however many 1.5-2 lb spots I can catch because they all pull like trains.
 
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