Justin
Old Mossy Horns
Take Action - NCDMF Shrimp Fishery Plan
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Shaking my head. That entire response is the sportsman's equivalent of "Orange Man Bad". What the State is doing isn't working, you can't come up with a specific reason for this perceived decline or a solution to it....but we just gotta do something anyway.
You want to make a positive impact on our fisheries? Put a moratorium on these massive encroachments being built at the very edge of our estuaries. Monitor and fine the hell out of any homeowner, subdivision, or municipality whose sewage and runoff hits our waters. We have massive spills and coastal waters with swimming advisories regularly. If it's harmful to people you can't make me believe it's not affecting the fishery.
Justin
Old Mossy Horns
not that I think inshore trawling is a GOOD thing, but banning it won’t bring the grass back either. We’ve had grass since we’ve had trawling, and in areas that wasn’t trawled, but it’s still disappearing. Can’t tell me that’s a good thing.
agsnchunt
Old Mossy Horns
Shaking my head. You can’t do better than compare me to the orange man bad folks.
I don’t disagree with your second paragraph. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t look at other problems.
agsnchunt
Old Mossy Horns
We have lots of problems, some with obvious causes, some we’re uncertain of.
Well, stop acting like them! If there's blame there's plenty of it to be passed around but your focus apparently is on the comms while forgetting that recs have their fair share of liability.
Which other problems? I'd sure like to hear your list of these obvious causes. A possible solution or two would be nice as well.....
darenative
Twelve Pointer
What's wrong with the trout rules?
agsnchunt
Old Mossy Horns
Oops. Flounder rules.
but since you mention it, the trout rules have too small a limit.
darenative
Twelve Pointer
You do know how we got stuck with the 4 speck limit dont ya?
agsnchunt
Old Mossy Horns
yes.
Woods and water
Ten Pointer
I agree . I've seen the waters I grew up on clamming and oystering be closed to harvest because of water quality. I was recently talking with a shellfish biologist and he stated that Brunswick county should be broke from paying fines but has never heard of a fine imposed. Seems no one gives a damn about the water . Down here it's all about development no matter the cost to the resources
oldest school
Old Mossy Horns
you aint talked to many have you?
They want them gone from sight and mind so they can kill more themselves. Greedy newcomers wanting to disrupt the natives.
Damndest Catch 22 in angling. One faction of recs raises hell at the other while both have jumped on the comms for years and years.
i listened to their whining in a tackle store for a long time, now it's even easier on the www.
"Make them stop so I can kill more." LOLZ," I'm selling out if I cant gig 50 a night."
OR "get rid of those CCA
s- they are limiting my ability to kill flounder/trout/drum."Meanwhile those that like to fish are laughing their asses off while catching plenty of everything that swims. Quietly keeping their own produced "by product" catch. You catch enough you gonna hook some that will be dead by the time you put them back.
Guides cant keep up with the demand.
They really will be busy when the nets come out of the sounds.
agsnchunt
Old Mossy Horns
It isn’t just Brunswick though. How much nitrogen, etc. are all of us in the Piedmont sending downstream? Everyone loves to pnt fingers at the farmers, but every farmer I’ve known for years wants to minimize expense on any applications and meters it best they can.
Meanwhile Freddy Fescue in the burbs is burning a hole in his wallet to keep his lawn green and weed free. (Don’t get me wrong, I love a nice Bermuda yard, but I’m not going for the Augusta National look here!). Also, does the once a quarter beach mansion really need a putting green for a yard? While on the one hand you stabilize the sand on the other you get huge beach erosion.
Not to mention everything else that runs off from our parking lots, etc. There’s a lot to be said for grave roads, sand yards, and oyster shell driveways from the old days. At least when I was a kid, we could surf after it rained. Our place in Walton County FL is now a giant resort, paved from end to end.
I’m a ranty old man today.
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Woods and water
Ten Pointer
Yep alot comes down the cape fear from inland . The waters I was speaking of is another river however. The biologist told me he couldn't believe the county was allowed to build sewage spray fields beside the tributaries flowing into the river. I just asked " you ain't from around here are you? " He responded no and said whoever designed it wasn't either. I pointed across the river and said a local lives there part time now, he moved when he sold that land to the county for the spray fields. Dude was really disappointed at the water quality in the river.
ducknut
Eight Pointer
It's like that with all the beach towns. I got tickled about all the homeowners in Southern Shores that got they're panties in a bundle about the "mini hotels". There were a couple houses built that maximized the number of bedrooms and they whined to end about how much pollution the septic tanks were going to release during a storm. Completely oblivious to their septic tank doing that everytime there's a good rain.