They are evacuating the bottom floor of 2 buildings at our place of the 4. We own the 3d floor and the boys got the cars to higher ground earlier.. so they are good but it is a mess with some units having water inside.
Summer 2024 weather thread
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The back side has passed Garner. Man it dumped some rain here for several hours.
NCST8GUY
Frozen H20 Guy
Ive never driven through conditions like my drive from cary to durham and back a half hout ago.
WHY do people drive with their hazards on?!?!?!
WHY do people drive with their hazards on?!?!?!
downeastnc
Old Mossy Horns
Ive never driven through conditions like my drive from cary to durham and back a half hout ago.
WHY do people drive with their hazards on?!?!?!
Yeah there was a really nice rotation with that cell but it never really tightened up enough to produce luckily....
bwfarms
Old Mossy Horns
Because they are idiotsWHY do people drive with their hazards on?!?!?!
downeastnc
Old Mossy Horns
Tornado on the ground headed for Whitakers
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shaggy
Old Mossy Horns
I hate to even bring it up but some of the models are repeating this scenario albeit a much weaker storm in only a weak. Shows 2 to 6 inches of rain up the app mountains. Would be very unwelcome
Chicken209
Eight Pointer
I saw that. Not good
NCST8GUY
Frozen H20 Guy
I cannot reach any of my relatives in Murphy because they got rid of their LAN line last year. SIL lives in GA North of Jacksonville and still doesn't have power or cell signa between she and her immediate family. But today My MRS called her sister and got through. Starting to figure out that Iphones can't call Iphones down there in SE GA for some reason. Iphone to Android connects fine. Probably not really the case just a wierd coincidence.
downeastnc
Old Mossy Horns
Any showers or storms that hit NC the next few days ( should be scattered and light ) will be the remnants of Helene....
QBD2
Old Mossy Horns
I won’t speak for Murphy, but Mom is 15 min away and they’re business as usual. Just sos ya know.
Duckmauler dhc
Old Mossy Horns
Tornado warning for Rockingham county. I looked at the radar and the cell looks tiny to me
Underhammer
Old Mossy Horns
I don't keep up with the news much, but feel that warnings for the Helene event may have been lacking.
Is that accurate?
Is that accurate?
shaggy
Old Mossy Horns
The NWS from Greenville Spartanburg was screaming it from the roof tops about the danger that was coming. Whether or not that was making headlines in the news out in the local markets in the mountains i don't know.
Deerjager
Old Mossy Horns
To be honest, I think the locals up here were surprised by the intensity. We were warned, but I think most are oblivious to what a hurricane can really do. Just my opinion based on what I am seeing in the aftermath.
Just my opinion here. Having grown up in the SC low country, I know what they can do and I made my property as safe as I could bringing in all loose items, parking cars away from big limbs etc. we’re lucky here compared to what some of our fellow WNC residents are dealing with.
YanceyGreenhorn
Still Not a Moderator
Y’all were def on it Thursday afternoon. I hadn’t really paid attention prior to that. Hell, I might not have paid attention after that until @Ol Copper text me and asked if I’d seen what was headed to Burnsville
downeastnc
Old Mossy Horns
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Deerjager
Old Mossy Horns
Yes they were and I was continually checking for updates. The warnings were there, but I can’t speak for others heeding them.
shaggy
Old Mossy Horns
Amongst the weather nerd community there's been a lot of discussion around the NHC forecasting in the last 24 to 36 hours.
There were 2 camps. One was the hurricane model suite which was more of the western track up towards Atlanta. The NHC put all their eggs in that basket. They started ignoring the global models which showed the eastern track into the Eastern big bend and up over the western SC.
Even with the storm consistently moving E of their track they never changed their track and even hoisted hurricane Warnings for Atlantas southern suburbs.
Deerjager
Old Mossy Horns
Well, now I can certainly tell them what path it took.
shaggy
Old Mossy Horns
Yeah it was even outside their cone once it got into eastern Georgia.Well, now I can certainly tell them what path it took.
Even still I'm not sure anyone could have expected 30 inches of rain that fast in the mountains. That's just an insane amount of water.
Deerjager
Old Mossy Horns
The Appalachia make weather systems do some odd things. I wonder if the NHC factors in those big rocks up here when making overland track projections?
shaggy
Old Mossy Horns
In this case it was an upper level low that was sitting over western Tennessee and Missouri. Hurricane models aren't the greatest for upper level features like that but then globals are and the globals all said east and they didn't factor that in.
Underhammer
Old Mossy Horns
so they had less than a days warning?
downeastnc
Old Mossy Horns
No they had been forecasting it for days...there was flash/flood watches as well as TS warnings in place for several days prior to the event. There had been some worry that a PRE event would happen Wed setting the stage for the disaster that followed and when that happened they upped their wording to highlight the potential historic and catastrophic level of flooding possible.
if they did it was because they were not paying attention. There was PLENTY of information out there.
Everybody loves to complain about forecasting.. Weather Guessing, particularly when worst case is brought to light, but then also complain when worse case happens and they "did not have enough warning". Miss me with that BS. They were forecasting this storm before it even became a storm. They had the track down pretty close at least 3 to 5 days out and the rainfall was said to be devastating in the mountains with plenty of lead time to prepare as best as one could.
I talked to people this weekend while I was helping with the cleanup that have been in the area I was in for 60+ years.. What happened on Friday had not happened since 1940 and I would say not even then. Make no mistake, concrete and asphalt contributed to this and in 1940 there was a lot less of that.
At some point a little personal responsibility needs to be in play, oh and a realization that Mother Nature is the 800lb Gorilla in the room, she will do as she pleases.
Underhammer
Old Mossy Horns
Was the PLENTY of information out there put out as a bona fide weather warning, you know, with the annoying tone on radio/TV/etc, or was it just in areas that proactive people go to?
The appearance is that it did not seem to have the same fervor that the coasties get with an impending landfall.
Despite your sarcasm, the issue isn't with the forecasting. It was with the information dissemination....
That was my impression as I was helping from the Tennessee side of things....
Simple answer, Yes, yes it was for anyone paying attention in life.
And I can assure you there was no sarcasm in what I said. As with any hurricane the most attention has and will always be on landfall. That is where the most immediate danger/threat is. However, in this case the aftermath of the landfall had just as much warning for days in advance. It is not the govt, or the weathermans job to take care of folks, thus my personal responsibility statement. If someone wants to go through life reactive vs proactive that is on them.