Submarine Fender Bender

agsnchunt

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UPDATED: Attack Submarine USS Connecticut Suffers Underwater Collision in South China Sea - USNI News

This post has been updated with additional details on the injuries to the crew of USS Connecticut and the location of the collision. Almost a dozen sailors have been injured after a U.S. nuclear attack submarine hit an unknown underwater object in the South China Sea, USNI News has learned. The...
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Our modern navy is pretty bad at piloting boats (see other recent crashes). But one has to wonder if they hit a Chinese boat shadowing them or if something else happened, like hitting another sea Mount while playing Red October.
 
Clark

Clark

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No first hand knowledge, but I assumed it was another boat. If they nail a rock I think they would be done, even at patrol speeds. Interesting how the news reports are already focusing about how difficult navigation is in that area due to ambient noise.
 
Wildlifer

Wildlifer

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Clark said:
No first hand knowledge, but I assumed it was another boat. If they nail a rock I think they would be done, even at patrol speeds. Interesting how the news reports are already focusing about how difficult navigation is in that area due to ambient noise.
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In 2005 one hit an undersea mountain at full speed. Flattened the nose and resulted in one death and most of the crew having some type of injury. They were not using active sonar at the time and outdated maps. Despite the damage they were able to surface and make it back to Guam.
 
Clark

Clark

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Wildlifer said:
In 2005 one hit an undersea mountain at full speed. Flattened the nose and resulted in one death and most of the crew having some type of injury. They were not using active sonar at the time and outdated maps. Despite the damage they were able to surface and make it back to Guam.
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I assume they almost never use active? Tough hull to hit a rock at 30 kts and survive.
 
Wildlifer

Wildlifer

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Not sure what the procedures are regarding when they use what. They had passive running but the speed rendered it pretty much useless.
 
Wildlifer

Wildlifer

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agsnchunt said:
how old do your maps have to be to not have a mountain on them?

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Ha yea I thought the same thing. If I had to guess they just didnt have detailed maps for the area at the time. It would seem like you would only want to travel full steam in areas with detailed charts. I believe this incident lead to the SUBSAFE program or the modification of it either this one or the one that sank in the 60s.
 

agsnchunt

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Wildlifer said:
Ha yea I thought the same thing. If I had to guess they just didnt have detailed maps for the area at the time. It would seem like you would only want to travel full steam in areas with detailed charts. I believe this incident lead to the SUBSAFE program or the modification of it either this one or the one that sank in the 60s.
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probably just didn’t want to pony up for the Navionics chip.
 
BigBow

BigBow

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Was Captain BILL CLINTON the submarine commander & is this another case of him putting things where they do not belong?
 

agsnchunt

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agsnchunt said:
news.usni.org

UPDATED: Attack Submarine USS Connecticut Suffers Underwater Collision in South China Sea - USNI News

This post has been updated with additional details on the injuries to the crew of USS Connecticut and the location of the collision. Almost a dozen sailors have been injured after a U.S. nuclear attack submarine hit an unknown underwater object in the South China Sea, USNI News has learned. The...
news.usni.org news.usni.org

Our modern navy is pretty bad at piloting boats (see other recent crashes). But one has to wonder if they hit a Chinese boat shadowing them or if something else happened, like hitting another sea Mount while playing Red October.
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he gone

like when your dad asked 7yo you, on one side of the tractor, to hold an adjustable wrench on a 1” nut while he, on the other side, leans on it with all his weight using a 3’ pull handle.

the minute that thing slips out of your hand and your dad says, “just go sit it the truck.”

lol
 

agsnchunt

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Rescue44

Rescue44

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She thought one of the criteria, minus 100 degrees Fahrenheit, was stupid. It wasn't up to her to decide. Damn!!
 
QBD2

QBD2

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Rescue44 said:
She thought one of the criteria, minus 100 degrees Fahrenheit, was stupid. It wasn't up to her to decide. Damn!!
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It wasn’t up to her to decide for sure. But the only stupid in this scenario was the Navy wanting sub steel tested to -100 F lolololol
 

Johnnie

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Anyone heard of Factor of Safety? Would you want a 10,000lb weight limit bridge built and tested to 10,000lbs, or MAYBE we should design, build and/or test to something greater?
She was given criteria, falsified testing based on her own thoughts, not the criteria that was requested. No matter how dumb she thought it was, it wasn't her place to get paid for NOT doing what she paid to do.
 

agsnchunt

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Johnnie said:
Anyone heard of Factor of Safety? Would you want a 10,000lb weight limit bridge built and tested to 10,000lbs, or MAYBE we should design, build and/or test to something greater?
She was given criteria, falsified testing based on her own thoughts, not the criteria that was requested. No matter how dumb she thought it was, it wasn't her place to get paid for NOT doing what she paid to do.
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I don't think anyone here disagrees that what she did was 100% wrong. We're just questioning the criteria.

land you have a very good point on the criteria.
 
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