Shotshell reloading

JJWise

Eight Pointer
After reloading for rifles for a few years now, I’m getting into making my own shotgun loads for the first time, last night I got a Mec 9000. Right now I have about 50 Federal Field & Target hulls and 50 Rios. Plan on just starting out with basic 7.5 shot for now and using them for skeet, doves and maybe other upland uses. Hoping to eventually start loading non-tox for waterfowl as well. Would anyone on here mind sharing their favorite 12ga loads?
 

HotSoup

Ten Pointer
I use AAHS hulls, claybuster wads, and clays powder. I have bars for 7/8, 1, 1-1/8, 1-1/4 shot and a ton of bushings. Its much easier than rifle reloading imo. I can load a box every 15 minutes or so with my mec 600.
 

took

Ten Pointer
Contributor
i shoot about 100 clays a week and have been debating getting into this as well....
 

JJWise

Eight Pointer
A word of caution, get a shot shell reloading manual and only use the components listed for your particular hull. DO NOT deviate from the published recipe!!!
Yep I have a manual on the way right now. I don’t plan on playing around with my shotgun loads to fine tune them as much as I do with my rifle loads

i shoot about 100 clays a week and have been debating getting into this as well....
I’ve been shooting about 200-250 rounds a week at the skeet club for the last 4 months or so. For a 12ga, I’m not sure there’s any cost savings in reloading skeet loads, unless you go down to 7/8oz. I’m hoping I’ll be able to load Bismuth shot for less than factory ammo costs though.
 

Bailey Boat

Twelve Pointer
Yep I have a manual on the way right now. I don’t plan on playing around with my shotgun loads to fine tune them as much as I do with my rifle loads

I’ve been shooting about 200-250 rounds a week at the skeet club for the last 4 months or so. For a 12ga, I’m not sure there’s any cost savings in reloading skeet loads, unless you go down to 7/8oz. I’m hoping I’ll be able to load Bismuth shot for less than factory ammo costs though.
There isn't much, if any savings when loading 12 gauge. You can buy them for about 5.00 per box when you buy them by the flat (10 boxes) The only thing I'm still reloading is 28 and 410 and the savings are definitely there for those 2.
If you need any help holler, I'm an NRA certified reloading instructor, metallic and shot shell...
 

nccatfisher

Old Mossy Horns
Contributor
That would depend on what you are loading in 12 ga. The buckshot I am loading is about $4-5 a shell if you buy it from the custom ammo mfgs. I am loading it for a pittance of that, especially when I cast my own buckshot.
 

took

Ten Pointer
Contributor
I mainly shoot 12 or 20g; and I was thinking the math may not add up to start it up yet. I did shoot a buddy's 28g recently and "almost" caught the 28g fever. Will definitely have to start reloading if I do.
 

darkthirty

Old Mossy Horns
My first thought would be chunk those Rios in the trash. I like rio factory shells but I don’t know anyone that has very good results with Rios. For a great reloading cheap hull. Buy a couple cases of Rem Gun Clubs. That’s a “budget priced” shell that also reloads very well.
Only thing I’ll say is it’s really easy to overthink it. Don’t. It’s not complicated. I see people freak out all the time over crimps too deep or crimps don’t seat deep enough, or there’s a small gap in the crimp. I guess it comes from shooting skeet for years with a bunch of 80 year old men who reloaded hundreds of thousands of shells. Id say something about my reload, and everyone of’em would look at me and say “gun went off and target broke, what else do you want”.....haha.
I loaded promo with clay buster wads when I was reloading 12’s. Can’t remember #’s though.
 

pattersonj11

Old Mossy Horns
You will want remingtons. The new AA will load okay, but they are bad about bending when crimping.

All remingtons do well. They started making a hull specifically for reloading and they work great, just don’t find them often.

For skeet, go ahead and shoot 7/8 oz. you won’t notice a difference besides less recoil.

You still won’t save any money. 410, 28, 16 can save money. 20 and 12 not so much. You can essentially load a premium shell equivalent to a AA or good Remington for around$5.50-$6.00 a box. Cheapest I have been able to load cheap shells is about $5.00. As long as the lead is high like now, it is just really costly to reload
 

JJWise

Eight Pointer
My first thought would be chunk those Rios in the trash. I like rio factory shells but I don’t know anyone that has very good results with Rios. For a great reloading cheap hull. Buy a couple cases of Rem Gun Clubs. That’s a “budget priced” shell that also reloads very well.
Only thing I’ll say is it’s really easy to overthink it. Don’t. It’s not complicated. I see people freak out all the time over crimps too deep or crimps don’t seat deep enough, or there’s a small gap in the crimp. I guess it comes from shooting skeet for years with a bunch of 80 year old men who reloaded hundreds of thousands of shells. Id say something about my reload, and everyone of’em would look at me and say “gun went off and target broke, what else do you want”.....haha.
I loaded promo with clay buster wads when I was reloading 12’s. Can’t remember #’s though.
I know most the old guys I shoot with shoot the ugliest reloads you’ve ever seen. But they also shoot O/Us. My 12s are all pumps, are they any more picky when it comes to cycling less than perfect shells?
 

pattersonj11

Old Mossy Horns
Autos are pickiest, but pumps are picky as well. They will want decent reloads to function.

Also, the hulls with the ribs on the sides are made just for that purpose. Slick side hulls like AA and the expensive remingtons are made for break action guns for the most part. They work fine in autos, but the ribs you see on cheaper shells are there to create less friction and load/unload easier.

I personally like to load the black Remington game loads best. They make really good reloads. The gun clubs do fine, but once in a while one will be funky. They are not very tight on overall length. The black game loads seem to be more even to me even though they are supposed to be the same hull.

Premium rems load great. The American clays or whatever the light green shell is reloads wonderfully.

I would load black or the American clays if I had the choice. I rarely have an issue with the black hulls.
 

Bailey Boat

Twelve Pointer
The biggest issue with most hulls isn't the plastic their made of it's the metal in the base that causes more problems than anything. Steel, and brass plated steel are among the worst. The steel won't "spring back" after firing like a true brass hull does. I have seen auto's and pump guns completely tied up because of a stuck shell.

I normally only reload WW AA's and have been doing so for over 30 years. At this time of year WW is offering a $2.00 per box rebate, up to 50 boxes so you may want to think about stocking up....... Buy them by the flat (10 boxes) and cut the UPC off the carton instead of having to cut each box individually (PITA)......
 
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