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[DBCooper]

I can imagine there could be lots on the LIV side. I won't speculate, but there will be a court case so we will see. Sure there is PGA collusion, we will just find out if they were dumb enough to put it in email and text.

If I ran the OWGR I would grant LIV points today. I would also set up the system so that awarded points have a multiplier based on field size, strength and # of holes played. Then I would dare them to sue again, make them prove the smaller field playing less holes deserves the same # of points as the Players. Sure they deserve points but probably closer to what is earned at the Honda or John Deere.

I'm just curious as to what you think a court could discover about LIV that would be pertinent to any case (concerning collusion by another party)???

If I was LIV, I would ask them what format garnered the most points for my members....and I would dare them to award me less. I would also use the 2024 format the PGA Tour is going to with their no-cut events....and dare them to question my no-cut events status.

They deserve more points than a typical DP World Tour tournament receives, if they go to 72 holes. It's a stronger field.

I respect the way you view this, above. Seems most want them excluded AT ANY COST...and for ANY REASON (legal or illegal). It's really odd to me. It's a clear case of the PGA Tour propagandizing the situation and the golf media is completely complicit.

 

[DBCooper]

Still think the PGA Tour is virtuous? Monaha could have had his cake and eat it, too. He just didn't want to come off the control.

He could have thwarted ALL of this.

 

[bte0816]

Looks like LIV isn't "no cut" anymore

 

[DBCooper]

You don’t say?…..lol

 

[DBCooper]

Mickelson had a very good press conference, yesterday. He said the LIV Tour was malleable and might go to a 72-hole format (if that's what it takes to gain OWGR points).

Imagine that.

Everything the PGA Tour is doing......is what he tried to get them to do, before the defections. So, they could have prevented most, if not all, of this. That's either greed....arrogance (or both).

 

[bte0816]

If the PGA chooses to roll back the golf ball LIV should absolutely do the opposite. I think that could be a big opportunity for the tour to gain some positive perception from fans.

I have never finished a round of golf and said "I hit the ball to straight and far today, this wasn't fun." There are plenty of ways to make players think twice about bombing it around. Actually make missing the fairway penal. We aren't raising the basket to 13' because guys jump higher or extending a mile because the mile time is coming down.

Restrictor plate ruined Nascar, if they want to roll the ball back just let everyone drop at 150y and let it be a pitch and putt tour.

 

[DBCooper]

If the PGA chooses to roll back the golf ball LIV should absolutely do the opposite. I think that could be a big opportunity for the tour to gain some positive perception from fans.

I have never finished a round of golf and said "I hit the ball to straight and far today, this wasn't fun." There are plenty of ways to make players think twice about bombing it around. Actually make missing the fairway penal. We aren't raising the basket to 13' because guys jump higher or extending a mile because the mile time is coming down.

Restrictor plate ruined Nascar, if they want to roll the ball back just let everyone drop at 150y and let it be a pitch and putt tour.

The PGA Tour isn't railing to roll back the golf ball (they're against it). It's the USGA and the R&A.

If LIV decided to not adopt the modified local rule for their competitions, it would put their members at a big disadvantage in the two majors that absolutely will be affected (the Open Chamiponship and the US Open). If the USGA and the R&A adopt this, the PGA Tour and LIV will also.

I'd say this is a done deal.

 

[DBCooper]

5:50
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Phil Mickelson says the agile and fluid
nature of LIV Golf means that they
would consider shifting to a traditional
72-hole format if it helped secure
World Ranking points.
The six-time Major champion is
somewhat of an ambassador for the
new LIV Golf League brand and has a
direct line to the Saudi-based backers
of the tournament.
The left-hander says the tour is
moving ahead of schedule due to
making a flying start last year, but they
are always looking at ways to improve
the brand.
Mickelson described LIV's progress as
"beyond amazing" in the last year, and
said as an agile new tour they'd always
consider changes as they go - even
including extending to 72 holes if it
helped to achieve Official World Golf
Ranking (OWGR) criteria for awarding
points.