Georgia wants to require 100 dollar turkey stamp to hunt turkeys by non residents age 16 or older

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Georgia General Assembly, is one of the largest state legislatures in the nation. The General Assembly consists of two chambers, the House of Representatives and the Senate.
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In addition to other already required tags
 

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Clark said:
Sounds kinda like SC?
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monkey see monkey do is a fairly common approach to govt "managing " wild turkeys.
It is popular with residents to ding the non residents. It's a win win for the state govt. imo.
And also there is the shallow "science" of it reducing turkey kill from what it would be with no increase in fees.
That's in the background going unsaid.
 
turkeyfoot

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Couple things
1 a hundred bucks is couch cushion change to a traveling turkey hunter they'd pony up twice that for gobbling bird
2nd this is much of nothing they ain't even close to some states prices including 1 that'd pretty much double Ga.
 
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oldest school said:
monkey see monkey do is a fairly common approach to govt "managing " wild turkeys.
It is popular with residents to ding the non residents. It's a win win for the state govt. imo.
And also there is the shallow "science" of it reducing turkey kill from what it would be with no increase in fees.
That's in the background going unsaid.
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Shallow would be key cause thos ain't stopping it. I've only seen 1 state that the price actually deterred and now they are backing off dropping price by 100 bucks of i remember right. Only thing decreasing that harvest is limited draws for non res barring bad hatches
 

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turkeyfoot said:
Shallow would be key cause thos ain't stopping it. I've only seen 1 state that the price actually deterred and now they are backing off dropping price by 100 bucks of i remember right. Only thing decreasing that harvest is limited draws for non res barring bad hatches
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I will have to disagree
You never know how many more would have been killed if the price didn’t change.
To me fewer people jump in when it’s not free
But so many still play you can’t see a decrease in kills. Pressure galore.
Think what it would be without fees
You can bet Mr routh thinks he knows. .
 
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oldest school said:
I will have to disagree
You never know how many more would have been killed if the price didn’t change.
To me fewer people jump in when it’s not free
But so many still play you can’t see a decrease in kills. Pressure galore.
Think what it would be without fees
You can bet Mr routh thinks he knows. .
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Easy figure out several these keep up with non residents sales I've only seen 2 decrease in licenses sales and 1 jumped right back up. Only state that has proven price makes difference is Ark and only cause it was just stupid ridiculous high but if you'll pull up those you'll see it is also rising in sales. If you know of any that contradict I'd like read up on it as I only read so many sites I could be missing some. SC was mentioned with that extra 100 and I can tell you from personal experience their was tons nc tags in hunt camps and parked along public rds the last 2 springs. I'm sticking with only way control harvest by non residents is control hunter numbers by limiting their numbers by limited draws that's a guaranteed way control, money is just a hoping way. Ark is going cheaper on their licenses by way.
 

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turkeyfoot said:
Easy figure out several these keep up with non residents sales I've only seen 2 decrease in licenses sales and 1 jumped right back up the next year. Only state that has proven price makes difference is Ark and only cause it was just stupid ridiculous high but if you'll pull up those you'll see it is also rising in sales. If you know of any that contradict I'd like read up on it. SC was mentioned with that extra 100 and I can tell you from personal experience their was tons nc tags in hunt camps and parked along public rds the last 2 springs. I'm sticking with only way control harvest by non residents is control hunter numbers by limiting their numbers by limited draws that's a guaranteed way control, money is just a hoping way. Ark is going cheaper on their licenses by way.
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Let me try again. Lotsa people want to hunt
Some will not pay
So the fact that sales haven’t decreased means only that the pressure is enormous

Again how many more would it be if there was no increase? We cannot say exactly but logically fees stop some from hunting. Legally.
 
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oldest school said:
Let me try again. Lotsa people want to hunt
Some will not pay
So the fact that sales haven’t decreased means only that the pressure is enormous

Again how many more would it be if there was no increase? We cannot say exactly but logically fees stop some from hunting. Legally.
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No doubt pressure is there. But we're just guessing as far as how many more might been killed just no way answer that. I just don't see the fees stopping turkey hunters truthfully they are not as high as people make them out be outside of just a very few. You mentioned Ruth if he was really serious about limiting non residents he would do away with the short term license most travelers only hunt few days, with short term your just inviting them to come without any real high costs.
 
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oldest school said:
Let me try again. Lotsa people want to hunt
Some will not pay
So the fact that sales haven’t decreased means only that the pressure is enormous

Again how many more would it be if there was no increase? We cannot say exactly but logically fees stop some from hunting. Legally.
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Oh and logically and the Turkey traveling craze I don't see going in same sentence😁😁
 

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woodmoose said:
Lost me there,,,, If some didn’t pay, how did sales not decrease?

and if sales didn’t decrease that means everyone paid,,,,

I guess that combination of ideas just goes over my head
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Sales didn’t decrease because there were more people coming in than getting out. INo way to know hiw many more would be there if there were no increase.
Or no way I know of. I may be missing something.
Legality us if no concern to some and they will hunt and not pay.

You may have them killing and they aren’t captured by the turkey tax collectors
 
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Sales sure ain't decreasing Neb sold out quicker than ever I expect KS be same, iowa only had 15ish leftover for whole state during any season and immediately went and that's paying 300 bucks for 1 bird and limited to just a time frame. Much illinois sold out into 4th season no surprise where most public is, Mississippi is such long shot I have no hope get in early season, just few examples. And the state this thread is based on non res permit applications are at all time high I'll stand by the money is not a issue 7nless you go Ark on folks people will pay
 

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turkeyfoot said:
Sales sure ain't decreasing Neb sold out quicker than ever I expect KS be same, iowa only had 15ish leftover for whole state during any season and immediately went and that's paying 300 bucks for 1 bird and limited to just a time frame. Much illinois sold out into 4th season no surprise where most public is, Mississippi is such long shot I have no hope get in early season, just few examples. And the state this thread is based on non res permit applications are at all time high I'll stand by the money is not a issue 7nless you go Ark on folks people will pay
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Yes they will pay but how many more would be there if they did not have to pay?
Less pressure less kills in states that don’t have quotas. That’s part of the plan.
 
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oldest school said:
Yes they will pay but how many more would be there if they did not have to pay?
Less pressure less kills in states that don’t have quotas. That’s part of the plan.
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No way know how many more just can guess at that. I'd be surprised if SC doesn't at sone point do away with short term for turkey several other states already have
 
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