Do you support legalizing the following for taking spring season turkeys in NC?
- Thread starter CRC
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I don’t think he has much of an attention span.
Cannon nets made legal, so you can catch & release.
Give those poor birds a break, it is hard enough for them to make it to adulthood as it is.
Give those poor birds a break, it is hard enough for them to make it to adulthood as it is.
TrkyJedi
Eight Pointer
Has anyone said blowguns? I'd like to kill one with a blowgun with a tss dart.
CRC
Old Mossy Horns
Right.
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6mm250
Eight Pointer
Pen traps baited with corn , catch a whole flock.
Mike
Mike
Rescue44
Old Mossy Horns
Hey...you might be on to something.
Forget that!
I sat in a tent with Wayne Bailey on the Pisgah NF in Burke County back in the old days of trap/release.
You sit there for hours and watch a pile of drugged corn.....when the turkeys arrive and start eating you run out of the tent and try to catch them before they consume too much........chasing a half drugged turkey ain't a whole lotta fun......if you catch a gobbler you're gonna get flogged and spurred....if you catch a hen you're still gonna get flogged.
If they eat too much they can die, if they eat too little they'll get away!
You have to watch the site until all the corn is consumed. Either that or clean up the leftover corn when you leave every day. You can't leave a large pile for the deer to eat that night.......imagine drugged deer!!!
I was sure happy when they came up with cannon nets...........put out corn.........wait til they gathered in the bait......shoot!!
AND I cannot believe I replied to one of CRC's inane threads!!
CRC
Old Mossy Horns
Drugged corn seemed to work some for the WRC per above
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Rescue44
Old Mossy Horns
Forget that!
I sat in a tent with Wayne Bailey on the Pisgah NF in Burke County back in the old days of trap/release.
You sit there for hours and watch a pile of drugged corn.....when the turkeys arrive and start eating you run out of the tent and try to catch them before they consume too much........chasing a half drugged turkey ain't a whole lotta fun......if you catch a gobbler you're gonna get flogged and spurred....if you catch a hen you're still gonna get flogged.
If they eat too much they can die, if they eat too little they'll get away!
You have to watch the site until all the corn is consumed. Either that or clean up the leftover corn when you leave every day. You can't leave a large pile for the deer to eat that night.......imagine drugged deer!!!
I was sure happy when they came up with cannon nets...........put out corn.........wait til they gathered in the bait......shoot!!
AND I cannot believe I replied to one of CRC's inane threads!!
OMG!!! Are there any videos of the...ummm...crazy people chasing/fighting with doped up turkeys?? Man...that would likely draw tears. Oh lort.
Hunting Nut
Old Mossy Horns
What if it was scaled down for, let's say 22 WMR or 22 LR? Wonder if that could be man packable? I'd would love one in one of those calibers. Be great to have on me/in vehicle for 2 legged vermin at dad's farm.
I have seen a Lewis gun full auto in 22 lr.
It ran without hiccups.
agsnchunt
Old Mossy Horns
think about it. I trailer my boat to a nice field with a few decoys, camo up, put a fan headdress on, and wait for he flock to come close enough. I could probably get 9-10 birds in a cast if they're bunched up.
then I could pick out the best bird for flock management and release the rest.
and no lead shot!
Hmmm, I wonder if you can get a tungsten weighted cast net.
ellwoodjake
Twelve Pointer
How about baited hooks and limblines? No need to get up early, just stop by once a day and see what you got.
Doubt that! This was serious business!
These were Stone Age days......cameras weighed too much and were too cumbersome. Besides every man was needed when the S hit the F.
If we were lucky we'd catch 5 or 6 turkeys in a day. Then we were tasked with carrying them out to the truck.
When cannon nets came along it wasn't unusual to catch 20-30 birds in one shot..........The Club I belong to in Chester County SC allowed the NCWRC to trap on 1 tract of our land and in 2 shots they caught 60-something to be released in the Piedmont area of NC. You guys hunting the middle of the State are perhaps hunting birds with SC lineage.
Different agencies cooperated back then. I remember an offer from WVa to exchange their turkeys for NC river otters. Another offer was turkeys for grouse.........
It took a few years to learn that mountain birds need to be released in the mountains. Piedmont birds in the Piedmont, etc.
The NCWRC trapped some birds on LeJeune and released them in the Polk County area of WNC but they soon died out. Biologists I talked to said it takes 5-7 years before birds can become acclimated to the new areas they are released in.
This educational article has been brought to you courtesy of Sunday morning newspaper being late.........
Buxndiverdux
Old Mossy Horns
Excellent point. Add them to your poll!
grim reaper
Ten Pointer
May not have been filmed but it is definitely well documented. There's a pdf out there that shows everything. Nc did trade river otters for wva turkeys and I hunt turkeys with sc and wva lineage. Florida also gifted nc birds once or twice. Every release site for each county and where the birds came from is available. That's awesome you were a part of it
oldest school
Old Mossy Horns
I agree- @wturkey01 Thank You!
DRS
Old Mossy Horns
I would like to hunt them with my Marlin .25 - 20 and a dog.
oldest school
Old Mossy Horns
just roll up to va in the fall and youre good to go.
CRC
Old Mossy Horns
Dogs are actually legal for a portion of the turkey season in some counties on private lands.
Hunting season opens in North Carolina on April 2. The youth season is April 2 – 8, and the statewide season is April 9 – May 7 (2022)
So prior to April 15th use a dog. Its legal in certain counties
Hunting season opens in North Carolina on April 2. The youth season is April 2 – 8, and the statewide season is April 9 – May 7 (2022)
So prior to April 15th use a dog. Its legal in certain counties
DRS
Old Mossy Horns
That is an option, but I would prefer to be able to hunt in NC, where I already have land to hunt and a lifetime license.
Not sure where you got your info about hunting Wild Turkeys w/ dogs in the Spring in NC, but many moons ago that is how they were hunted in the Fall in NC. Bird dogs typically would bust up a flock of Turkeys & the hunter would call w/ kee kees in order to get them to reassemble. Some hunters would place their dog in a burlap sack, while attempting to call the turkeys back in.
CRC
Old Mossy Horns
Comes from straight from state law. I posted it.
CRC
Old Mossy Horns
Sorry but except for game lands what I posted is the law.
The WRC has no authority to restrict the use of dogs outside of the April 15th-June 15th time frame in eastern NC.
And they know this.
(b) In the area of the State lying east of that described in subsection (a), the Wildlife Resources Commission may not restrict or prohibit the use of dogs in hunting or the training of dogs, in season or out, except during the breeding and raising seasons for game during the period April 15 through June 15.
The WRC has no authority to restrict the use of dogs outside of the April 15th-June 15th time frame in eastern NC.
And they know this.
(b) In the area of the State lying east of that described in subsection (a), the Wildlife Resources Commission may not restrict or prohibit the use of dogs in hunting or the training of dogs, in season or out, except during the breeding and raising seasons for game during the period April 15 through June 15.
Except they do have the authority to restrict dogs for specific game. You eluded that dogs were legal to use in certain parts of the state for turkey which you know is plainly a lie because it is explicitly stated in the manner of take that they are prohibited for turkey. What the law you are speaking of is actually referring to is training, because basically there is no other season open during that time other than groundhog, hog and coyote other than turkey. They farther closed the loophole a few years ago when they stopped the running of dogs period on GL during certain periods.
CRC
Old Mossy Horns
There is the 1979 law for you guys.
Read it and keep arguing
Argue with this, I know reading comprehension isn't your forte but it covers exactly what you think you are reading there. And pay close attention to the part in bold. It clearly states that hunting turkeys with dogs is prohibited PERIOD. And they do have the power to enforce that.
Hunting with Dogs
• It is unlawful to hunt, run or chase deer at any
time in these counties and all counties west
of the line they form: Rockingham, Guilford,
Randolph, Montgomery, Stanly and Union
counties. See map on page 68. This does not
apply to the use of a single dog on a leash
to assist the hunter in retrieving a dead or
wounded deer (see “Retrieval”).
• It is unlawful to hunt, run or chase deer at any
time in these counties and parts of counties:
» Alamance
» Anson west of N.C. 742
» Chatham
» Chowan south of U.S. Highway 17 and
U.S. Highway 17 Business and east of a
line drawn from the intersection of the
western city limits of the Town of Edenton
and U.S. Highway 17 Business and ex-
tending due south to the Albemarle Sound
» Durham
» Johnston
» Lee
» Orange south of I-85
» Richmond west of Little River and that
portion east of Little River and bounded
by N.C. 73 to the north, by Hough Road
to the east, and by Grassy Island Road
to the south.
» Wayne
» Wake south of N.C. 98
NOTE: This does not apply to the use of a
single dog on a leash to assist the hunter in
retrieving a wounded deer (see “Retrieval”).
• In all other counties hunting deer with dogs
is allowed, but local law may impose further
restrictions. See “Local Laws” section.
• In counties where hunting deer with dogs is
allowed, game land rules may prohibit this
activity. See “Game Lands” section.
• It is unlawful to hunt bears with dogs in the
following counties:
Alamance south of I-85, Anson west of N.C.
Hwy 742, Cabarrus, Chatham, Davie, David-
son, Forsyth, Gaston, Guilford, Lee, Lincoln,
Mecklenburg, Montgomery, Orange south of
I-85, Pamlico (per local law), Randolph, Rock-
ingham, Rowan, Stanly, Union, and Wake
south of N.C. Hwy 98. See map on page 65.
• Except for deer and bear as described above,
hunting game animals and game birds (except
for wild turkey) with dogs is allowed in all coun-
ties of the state, subject to the restrictions
applied by local laws and game land rules.
See “Local Laws” and “Game Lands” sections.
• It is unlawful to intentionally remove or de-
stroy an electronic collar or other electronic
device placed on a dog by its owner to main-
tain control of the dog.
Training Dogs
• It is unlawful to run or chase deer during
closed season, except when under the con -
trol of the owner. This applies only to coun-
ties where hunting deer with dogs is allowed.
In counties or parts thereof and game lands
where hunting deer with dogs is prohibited,
running or chasing deer is prohibited at all
times. See map on page 67. This does not
apply to the use of a single dog on a leash
to assist the hunter in retrieving a wounded
deer (see “Retrieval”).
• Except as allowed in authorized field trials and
training using domestically raised waterfowl
or game birds, it is unlawful to possess axes
Hunting with Dogs
• It is unlawful to hunt, run or chase deer at any
time in these counties and all counties west
of the line they form: Rockingham, Guilford,
Randolph, Montgomery, Stanly and Union
counties. See map on page 68. This does not
apply to the use of a single dog on a leash
to assist the hunter in retrieving a dead or
wounded deer (see “Retrieval”).
• It is unlawful to hunt, run or chase deer at any
time in these counties and parts of counties:
» Alamance
» Anson west of N.C. 742
» Chatham
» Chowan south of U.S. Highway 17 and
U.S. Highway 17 Business and east of a
line drawn from the intersection of the
western city limits of the Town of Edenton
and U.S. Highway 17 Business and ex-
tending due south to the Albemarle Sound
» Durham
» Johnston
» Lee
» Orange south of I-85
» Richmond west of Little River and that
portion east of Little River and bounded
by N.C. 73 to the north, by Hough Road
to the east, and by Grassy Island Road
to the south.
» Wayne
» Wake south of N.C. 98
NOTE: This does not apply to the use of a
single dog on a leash to assist the hunter in
retrieving a wounded deer (see “Retrieval”).
• In all other counties hunting deer with dogs
is allowed, but local law may impose further
restrictions. See “Local Laws” section.
• In counties where hunting deer with dogs is
allowed, game land rules may prohibit this
activity. See “Game Lands” section.
• It is unlawful to hunt bears with dogs in the
following counties:
Alamance south of I-85, Anson west of N.C.
Hwy 742, Cabarrus, Chatham, Davie, David-
son, Forsyth, Gaston, Guilford, Lee, Lincoln,
Mecklenburg, Montgomery, Orange south of
I-85, Pamlico (per local law), Randolph, Rock-
ingham, Rowan, Stanly, Union, and Wake
south of N.C. Hwy 98. See map on page 65.
• Except for deer and bear as described above,
hunting game animals and game birds (except
for wild turkey) with dogs is allowed in all coun-
ties of the state, subject to the restrictions
applied by local laws and game land rules.
See “Local Laws” and “Game Lands” sections.
• It is unlawful to intentionally remove or de-
stroy an electronic collar or other electronic
device placed on a dog by its owner to main-
tain control of the dog.
Training Dogs
• It is unlawful to run or chase deer during
closed season, except when under the con -
trol of the owner. This applies only to coun-
ties where hunting deer with dogs is allowed.
In counties or parts thereof and game lands
where hunting deer with dogs is prohibited,
running or chasing deer is prohibited at all
times. See map on page 67. This does not
apply to the use of a single dog on a leash
to assist the hunter in retrieving a wounded
deer (see “Retrieval”).
• Except as allowed in authorized field trials and
training using domestically raised waterfowl
or game birds, it is unlawful to possess axes
CRC
Old Mossy Horns
No they don't.
State and local law trumps the regulations digest. Always has.
They only have authority in certain counties and parts of counties and on game lands.
I posted a link to the law. Read it.
State and local law trumps the regulations digest. Always has.
They only have authority in certain counties and parts of counties and on game lands.
I posted a link to the law. Read it.
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