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alt1001

Old Mossy Horns
Lol.

Very little substance can be taken from that game.

OC just took one of the best G5 jobs in the country.
OL coach just took a promotion to be OC at that same school.

It was the very first game the new Co-OC's have coached together. Add in GA's coaching the QB's and OL.

Missing Germaine Pratt and Kelvin Harmon.

That was no where near the State team of the regular season.

State has put together back to back 9 win seasons for the first time since 1991. They lost 7 guys to the NFL draft and you said they would suck this year having to replace all of that. Lol.

They will lose 5+ this season to the NFL draft.

Everything is just fine in Raleigh.

But we know, Doeren lucked into Ryan Finley, State played a horrible schedule, Doeren will suck now without Drinkwitz, etc.

I guess I'd be yapping about another team too if "my" team has won 5 games the last two seasons, just hired a 68 retread and will suck in 2019 again.

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Yap, yap, yap. TAMU was without their top tackler and lost one of their best assistants as well. The OC's you've tabbed for the future were there. That was their gameplan, and likely the best personnel they'll ever have. That's your future. Or should I say your past?

As for the 9 win season, nobody cares. We haven't cared all year. When you play a schedule as abysmal as yours, 9-4 is an underachievment. You want to trash Fedora yet he won 19 games in 2015 & 2016 while you're here parading 18 wins, telling us everything is fine.

All that NFL talent you tout couldn't convert one 3rd down or score more than 13 points, and that's with your OC's in place and 3 weeks of preparation. Drinkwitz saved Doeren's job, that much is evident. DD is about to ride the Larry Fedora express.
 

alt1001

Old Mossy Horns
I have to say, BBDs post above is spot on. That was a totally different team than the one that was on the field the rest of the season. There's not much to read into after that game.
But Texas A&M had their team intact? Stop with the excuses. NCSU was exactly as everyone thought.
 

alt1001

Old Mossy Horns
I saw this on another forum. What a helluva indictment!

Doeren vs teams that finished the year in the top 25:

1. 2013 - 17-49 vs #1 FSU
2. 2013 - 14-26 vs #8 Clemson
3. 2013 - 20-38 vs #23 Duke
4. 2014 - 41-56 vs #5 FSU
5. 2014 - 23-56 vs #8 GAT
6. 2014 - 0-41 vs #15 Clemson
7. 2014 - 12-30 vs #24 Louis
8. 2015 - 41-56 vs #2 Clemson
9. 2015 - 17-34 vs #14 FSU
10. 2015 - 34-45 vs #15 UNC
11. 2016 - 17-24 vs #1 Clemson
12. 2016 - 20-24 vs #8 FSU
13. 2016 - 13-27 vs #20 Miami
14. 2016 - 13-54 vs #21 Louis
15. 2017 - 31-38 vs #4 Clemson
16. 2017 - 14-35 vs #11 Notre Dame
17. 2018 - 7-41 vs #2 Clemson
18. 2018 - 41-51 vs #17 Syracuse
19. 2018 - 13-54 vs #21 TxA&M


Total: 0-19
 

BoonDock

Twelve Pointer
Contributor
At the end of the day, NCSU season was exactly like the good UNC season when they got owned by Baylor. They both had above average years and got brought back down to size when they played real football teams. UNC and NCSU capped successful 9/10 win seasons and got blown out by good football teams ending unsuccessful seasons. NCSU and fans leave last night saying “we had a solid year, something to build off of, 9 wins and a good bowl appearance”. Texas A&M and fans say “decent salvage to a down year, ultimately let’s turn the page on this and forget about it”.

If you’re excited about 9 win seasons, you’re on the outside looking in. It’s championship or bust when you’re running with the big dogs and that something no North Carolina football team has experienced or will experience in our lifetime. You’re in basketball country, period.
 

Mack in N.C.

Old Mossy Horns
D'ont count out Mack Brown, people say well he is 68 yada yada yada but people are fooling themselves counting mack brown out. He did it at UNC before and he can this time as well.
 

Mack in N.C.

Old Mossy Horns
I saw this on another forum. What a helluva indictment!

Doeren vs teams that finished the year in the top 25:

1. 2013 - 17-49 vs #1 FSU
2. 2013 - 14-26 vs #8 Clemson
3. 2013 - 20-38 vs #23 Duke
4. 2014 - 41-56 vs #5 FSU
5. 2014 - 23-56 vs #8 GAT
6. 2014 - 0-41 vs #15 Clemson
7. 2014 - 12-30 vs #24 Louis
8. 2015 - 41-56 vs #2 Clemson
9. 2015 - 17-34 vs #14 FSU
10. 2015 - 34-45 vs #15 UNC
11. 2016 - 17-24 vs #1 Clemson
12. 2016 - 20-24 vs #8 FSU
13. 2016 - 13-27 vs #20 Miami
14. 2016 - 13-54 vs #21 Louis
15. 2017 - 31-38 vs #4 Clemson
16. 2017 - 14-35 vs #11 Notre Dame
17. 2018 - 7-41 vs #2 Clemson
18. 2018 - 41-51 vs #17 Syracuse
19. 2018 - 13-54 vs #21 TxA&M


Total: 0-19
Seriously state fans, no jabbing here if you are happy with DD with those results then you really need to take the blinders off. Terrible.
 
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All Pines

Eight Pointer
NCSU did well during the scripted part of the game, but struggled mightily once TAMU made adjustments. They really looked lost, and all the coaching changes over the past 2 weeks wreaked havoc on the team. I agree with others who mentioned Drinkwitz was a big loss.

The 0-19 that alt mentioned was shocking. DD is a great coach for NCSU, but maybe not on a national level. I expect he will be ranked often, but never a national contender, which is ok/really good for NCSU. Many teams would love his success.

On to next season, and pleased with this one. Keep winning 8-9 games, keep putting guys in the league, keep recruiting well, and keep having your way with unc.
 

BigBuckDown

Old Mossy Horns
I saw this on another forum. What a helluva indictment!

Doeren vs teams that finished the year in the top 25:

1. 2013 - 17-49 vs #1 FSU
2. 2013 - 14-26 vs #8 Clemson
3. 2013 - 20-38 vs #23 Duke
4. 2014 - 41-56 vs #5 FSU
5. 2014 - 23-56 vs #8 GAT
6. 2014 - 0-41 vs #15 Clemson
7. 2014 - 12-30 vs #24 Louis
8. 2015 - 41-56 vs #2 Clemson
9. 2015 - 17-34 vs #14 FSU
10. 2015 - 34-45 vs #15 UNC
11. 2016 - 17-24 vs #1 Clemson
12. 2016 - 20-24 vs #8 FSU
13. 2016 - 13-27 vs #20 Miami
14. 2016 - 13-54 vs #21 Louis
15. 2017 - 31-38 vs #4 Clemson
16. 2017 - 14-35 vs #11 Notre Dame
17. 2018 - 7-41 vs #2 Clemson
18. 2018 - 41-51 vs #17 Syracuse
19. 2018 - 13-54 vs #21 TxA&M


Total: 0-19
First it was he can't win a league game.

Then it was he can't win a road game against a P5 team.

Then it was he can't finish above .500 in the ACC.

Then it was he can't win a bowl game.

It'll always be "something" with the naysayers and wannabes. Lol.

When a coach is getting criticized with 9 regular season wins, then I'm happy.

Lmao.


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All Pines

Eight Pointer
Seriously state fans, no jabbing here if you are happy with DD with those results then you really need to take the blinders off. Terrible.
You’re right, mack...that stat is awful. But he’s also had back to back 9 win seasons and back to back winning records in conference play...and anyone who expects much more than that is delusional.

DD will likely never win any titles, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t successful. Many programs would love him to be their coach. And he may also become a better coach, too.
 

23mako

Ten Pointer
DD certainly won't get there if he doesn't get his defense in shape. I cannot believe Huxtable still is the DC.
 

BigBuckDown

Old Mossy Horns
NCSU did well during the scripted part of the game, but struggled mightily once TAMU made adjustments. They really looked lost, and all the coaching changes over the past 2 weeks wreaked havoc on the team. I agree with others who mentioned Drinkwitz was a big loss.

The 0-19 that alt mentioned was shocking. DD is a great coach for NCSU, but maybe not on a national level. I expect he will be ranked often, but never a national contender, which is ok/really good for NCSU. Many teams would love his success.

On to next season, and pleased with this one. Keep winning 8-9 games, keep putting guys in the league, keep recruiting well, and keep having your way with unc.
Wanna know what Mack Browns record was against teams that finished in the top 25 (AP Poll) during his first 6 years at unc?

3-13-1

Awful.

And I haven't fact checked this 0-19 stat either.

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alt1001

Old Mossy Horns
First it was he can't win a league game.

Then it was he can't win a road game against a P5 team.

Then it was he can't finish above .500 in the ACC.

Then it was he can't win a bowl game.

It'll always be "something" with the naysayers and wannabes. Lol.

When a coach is getting criticized with 9 regular season wins, then I'm happy.

Lmao.
LMAO!

The top 2 aren't even accolades or benchmarks. They're basic requirements to remain a coach at the P5 level.

The rest of this BS are the exact things you chastised Fedora about yet are parading for Doeren. That stat sucks. Big time. His coaching against anyone with a pulse has sucked. Big time. You want 9 wins to be meaningful because it's simply a number but when peeling back layers, exposes DD for the fraud he is. Yesterday exposed him for the fraud he is.

DD has ZERO signature wins. None. Not a one. He regularly blows games he shouldn't and the only reason he wins 9 games is because he plays a schedule Western Carolina would be proud of. Drinkwitz saved his rear 3 years ago and yesterday was classic Dave Doeren football.

All of us are going to enjoy watching Davey-ball make a comeback.
 

Newsome Road

Ten Pointer
There's a lot of desperation and reaching from some heel fans right now, but that's understandable with the state of your program. But y'all are all operating off the assumption (or wish) that they peaked and are looking at a 3-4 win season next year. I remember hearing the same crap last year. State fans that I know are not "satisfied". But most are happy with the trend.
I don't have delusions of being a title contender. But if 8 wins is a bad year and 10 wins is a good year and we continue to own the heels, I'm ok with that.
 

alt1001

Old Mossy Horns
But y'all are all operating off the assumption (or wish) that they peaked and are looking at a 3-4 win season next year.
No different than saying Mack is a washed up grandpa.

UNC or anyone for that matter, is not scared of a program that can't beat WF on a consistent basis and who gets humiliated against anyone with a pulse. For all the talk about the Baylor game, that was still just an 11pt game in which UNC gave up 49. Your Pack just gave up 52 in a 39pt loss. The only thing DD is building is false hope for Pack fans. 2 years with the best roster DD could realistically ask for and he couldn't still couldn't surpass Fedora's win totals for '15 and '16, nor did this recruiting class even surpass Larry's '17 class. I get the hope but to think you shouldn't be worried, especially without Drinkwitz, is setting yourself up for disappointment. Been there done that.
 
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