Just be glad he didn't suggest a more 'amorous' crime....Your confusing me with God. Try the smack
Abortion
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Helium
Old Mossy Horns
No I’m saying that there is in sins… sure sin (any sun) separates us from God that’s why we need a Savior BUT there are levels of sin … even society understands thatYour confusing me with God. Try the smack
Even God speaks of that… sexual sins being worse etc
so if the sin is bad enough, we get to judge?
agsnchunt
Old Mossy Horns
So, you’re okay with an individuals choice between them and their maker if they want to kill their annoying neighbor or cheating spouse?
Because there’s no difference between killing a living baby in the womb.
I’m not sure I made this argument.
So, you’re good with adultery, killing, & stealing?
Otherwise, you’d be forcing your views on others.
To force another person to carry to term being a victim of rape, incest or having to carry a non viable fetus to term in a country or a state where any abortion is illegal is abhorrent. I’m not nor is anyone else walking in that woman’s shoes so why should we have a say over what she does with HER BODY, It’s just forcing one persons view over another.
Is a woman who has an abortion any more of a sinner than the liar, adulterer and thief? Can they not all be forgiven of their sins? So why is the woman viewed worse than a liar, adulterer or a thief? But everyone has their views and opinions. I just believe there is only one who will judge us in the end and I try hard not to judge people because no one knows what people have been through.
Is a woman who has an abortion any more of a sinner than the liar, adulterer and thief? Can they not all be forgiven of their sins? So why is the woman viewed worse than a liar, adulterer or a thief? But everyone has their views and opinions. I just believe there is only one who will judge us in the end and I try hard not to judge people because no one knows what people have been through.
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Helium
Old Mossy Horns
For you and @Dick … we do judge daily and so do you! Judging right and wrong etc in society is not the same as Final judgement of heaven or hell (only God has that power and right)
Ps Hence my analogy to @Dick abour smacking versus shooting him…societies judge those differently.. and for good reason
agsnchunt
Old Mossy Horns
It is not her body.
Nonetheless, let's give your logic a needless breath of air and say we'll allow for rape/incest.
There are currently ~100,000 abortions per month.
The current claims of rape/incest pregnancies are 1%.
So, you're okay with killing only 12,000 babies a year.
Actually there is one significant difference. However trying to explain that to you would be pointless and not worth the time.
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It is not her body you say then who’s body is it?
agsnchunt
Old Mossy Horns
Rescue44
Old Mossy Horns
It's not just her body.
Helium
Old Mossy Horns
Amazing how it’s 
from the naysayers when someone stays on point and doesn’t fall for the “rabbit trick arguments”
Believers get criticized all the time (sometimes rightly so) for ignoring logic BUT i swear every argument FOR ABORTION in this thread is irrational and illogical
from the naysayers when someone stays on point and doesn’t fall for the “rabbit trick arguments” Believers get criticized all the time (sometimes rightly so) for ignoring logic BUT i swear every argument FOR ABORTION in this thread is irrational and illogical
I was just stirring the pot. It's fun to see how excited people get when they don't get the response they like
we just see it differently that’s all, without her body nothing survives in the womb. Big rabbit hole to go down to say it’s not her body.
agsnchunt
Old Mossy Horns
See that’s the funny part I don’t I stated I’m pro life. Yours is the typical knee jerk reaction. I’m not involved in that decision it’s not my life or body to control In making that choice. Why should I shove my beliefs down someone else’s throat. Should be between her and her maker and her doctor if it’s that type of situation.
so a father should have no say?
Rescue44
Old Mossy Horns
And?
Absolutely but I only support it in cases of rape, incest or a medical situation, not as a means of birth control.
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agsnchunt
Old Mossy Horns
Are these not your words?
"To force another person to carry to term being a victim of rape, incest or having to carry a non viable fetus to term in a country or a state where any abortion is illegal is abhorrent. I’m not nor is anyone else walking in that woman’s shoes so why should we have a say over what she does with HER BODY, It’s just forcing one persons view over another."
Assertions without proof are just that.
it's not her life or body either.
All of the above states my point if a woman is raped, incest or a medical condition that warrants an abortion then it should be her choice. I’m pro life because I wouldn't want a girlfriend/wife/one night stand to have an abortion and wouldn’t support it. But in the circumstances of rape, incest, or medical emergency then it’s the woman’s choice or her doctor. Not hard to understand pretty much laid out in layman’s term. So I guess your view regardless of the situation she should be forced to carry the baby to full term and risk her life in a medical emergency when a doctor says it’s warranted to save her life? So if that be the case I could turn it around and say you support rape and incest.
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what if she provoked the incest?
Helium
Old Mossy Horns
Forced to carry regardless… life in danger or not
gameland
Twelve Pointer
Seems to me your spoon is trying to stir also. If not a believer why even read this section?
gameland
Twelve Pointer
Why do yall who admit you’re not believers even bother coming to this section? If it’s to hopefully find answers that will lead you to a relationship with Christ then I say welcome, but just to argue??
I don’t dog hunt or reload so I don’t bother reading those sections… maybe I’m different
I don’t dog hunt or reload so I don’t bother reading those sections… maybe I’m different
Because I'm an admin and have to keep an eye on things. It's best if you don't try to tell me what parts of my own forum I should read.
THIS is why people don't go to church or seek to learn.
People like this is what drove me from church.
keep up that great works!
timekiller13
Old Mossy Horns
This really comes down to the free will argument.
If humans don’t have free will and God is all-knowing and all-powerful, then God knew that the fetus would be aborted and therefore allowed it to happen.
And if God allows something to happen then who are we to argue about it?
If humans don’t have free will and God is all-knowing and all-powerful, then God knew that the fetus would be aborted and therefore allowed it to happen.
And if God allows something to happen then who are we to argue about it?
agsnchunt
Old Mossy Horns
THIS is why people don't go to church or seek to learn.
People like this is what drove me from church.
keep up that great works!
While I agree that was a less-than-appealing response, there are more good folks trying to be better in the Christian church than there are bad.
And we would love to have you join us in that journey.
I'd rather not. Been to MANY. Same people at every one.
I'm glad you found your family and would encourage everyone to go and learn. Churches provide the most for this country when hard times hit.