redbow
Ten Pointer
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I don't think the yankee neighbors care for how we grill either lol
In your picture it looks like you have a small deck.View attachment 31216View attachment 31216
I don't think the yankee neighbors care for how we grill either lol
In your picture it looks like you have a small deck.
Yup, and I'm feeling it this morning too??someone get into grandpap's shine?
I agree that we are looking at it it with completely different bias.OS, your brain and mine must work completely different on this topic. You've said something like this several times, and I keep scratching my head.
When I look at those numbers My first thought is: if you overfish stocks for 30 years, you'll eventually put yourself out of business. I'm not saying that is the whole story, but the market is there. If the fish were there, they'd still be catching them. I'd say they kept going back to the well and found it had less water. Is it possible that catching 400 million pounds a year, or even 200 million wasn't sustainable?
Yeah yall, quit yer bichin. Jimbob gonna cook hotdogs on a burn barrel in his tighty whities if he wants to.
That being said if we pine for the good oles days the facts as stated say that the comms were killing 20 times more finfish then than they are now. and rec fishing was great?
With limited menhaden processing plants on the east coast the menhaden fishery is a fraction of what it used to be. Once you add those numbers back into the total take it paints a more detailed and accurate pic. Couple that with increased regulation and decreased participation in a lot of fisheries in nc, the picture isnt as ugly as many try to paint it.I agree that we are looking at it it with completely different bias.
I cant figure that catches almost 40 years ago lead to the comm catches today being down so much.
Must be methods or species (menheaden?) that have changed.
That being said if we pine for the good oles days the facts as stated say that the comms were killing 20 times more finfish then than they are now. and rec fishing was great?
I cant figure how that translates into them being the problem today?
But as I said I must be missing something.
I agree that we are looking at it it with completely different bias.
I cant figure that catches almost 40 years ago lead to the comm catches today being down so much.
Must be methods or species (menheaden?) that have changed.
That being said if we pine for the good oles days the facts as stated say that the comms were killing 20 times more finfish then than they are now. and rec fishing was great?
I cant figure how that translates into them being the problem today?
But as I said I must be missing something.
With limited menhaden processing plants on the east coast the menhaden fishery is a fraction of what it used to be. Once you add those numbers back into the total take it paints a more detailed and accurate pic. Couple that with increased regulation and decreased participation in a lot of fisheries in nc, the picture isnt as ugly as many try to paint it.
Here are the numbers with menhaden backed out (might be slightly off as I may be including in comm finish that DMF isn't). This doesn't paint a bleak picture or show a trend? Participation is most likely down because there isn't as much to harvest as there used to be.
Participation is down because were not allowed to freaking fish..................literally, you can not set nets in the main areas that use to produce the harvest numbers you're quoting. Roanoke, Croatan and east side of Pamlico Sound.Participation is most likely down because there isn't as much to harvest as there used to be.
2006 or 2007What year were herring basically taken out?
2000 or 2001 was the first year of the Sea Turtle ITP, every year since then those regulations have increased.
This a joke or are you serious?There is recreational dolphin fishing? Wow.
This a joke or are you serious?
Yeah it's a fish, not the same as "flipper" which is porpoise.I am serious but I admit I am no salt water fisherman. I looked at the chart just out of curiosity and saw dolphins. I didn’t realize that was a thing. My bad if that is basic knowledge or it i read it wrong......no malice intentions here.