Starfan
Eight Pointer
I wonder if you can still keep hook and line caught flounder with a SCFL after the closure.
is it against the law to intentionally catch a flounder with a rod and reel and let them go during the "closed" season?
or is just too much to ask for a rec guy to throw back a 15 inch flounder?
well I was being as sarcastic as I could and I understand your point.
I’ve caught more flounder this year than I ever have before . Maybe that’s just because I’ve been going to the right spots . Either way it has been fun!!
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Commercial season going from 11 months to 30 days and you think recs are the only ones getting screwed?Rec. fisherman have never caught enough flounder in any given year to warrant a season closing in Aug and the comm. not catching there limit and can fish till end of year....that tells me that someone setting the limits rules to screw the recs.
This is about SOUTHERN flounder, not summer flounder. The Feds don't have much, if anything, to do with these regulations.I don’t understand exactly how any fish that is being severely overfished(which is what the SAMFC is saying about summer flounder) can have any harvest by any group until the stock has recovered.
As to the NC regs, the changes are being driven by the feds and this is The NCDMF plan to recover the stocks.
This is about SOUTHERN flounder, not summer flounder. The Feds don't have much, if anything, to do with these regulations.
NC's commercial Summer Flounder aren't even caught here, they are caught off the coast of New England and landed here.
well actually there are.I guess it’s about like asking a guy who intentionally targets crappie to let a 12”er go because of a closed season. Now a bass fisherman may fish to release them, but there aren’t too many folks that target crappie for the fun of the fight.
I'm seeing more nets and more licenses being sold everyday of Yardsale sites....Commercial season going from 11 months to 30 days and you think recs are the only ones getting screwed?
A 30 day season, mid September to mid October, I'll be surprised if many of the poundnetters even set their nets.
well actually there are.
my backyard fishery Jordan hosts many who don't have to kill every legal crappie they catch.
naw these cats would go anyway since they aren't fishing for food. they enjoy finding and catching dozens and dozens of crappie.Big difference in “killing every legal fish” and a closed season. I know plenty of people who throw back legal fish, but they probably would not be fishing if it was a closed season. My take on flounder fishermen is that’s probably the case there as well.
any one who has ever not liked to fish for large channel bass must have a screw or two or three loose. imo.Yep you can't keep and eat "big" red drum anymore but folks love to fish for them
They may certainly HAVE BEEN in the past.It’s a freaking shame that our fisheries are managed so poorly.
They may certainly HAVE BEEN in the past.
Yes.... the duskys are killing the tuna offshore and the sandbars are eating anything and everything inshore and offshore as well. Piss on a sharkWhile we’re complaining about the poor job DMF appears to be doing, I’ll bring up the declining inshore fisheries of Hatteras and Ocracoke. The vast majority of shark species are protected, they say there aren’t many left. Go watch huge schools of dusky sharks corral up and maul the red drum in/around the inlet. I was there all week and friends who are lifelong guides are telling me the puppy drum fishing has been nearly nonexistent over the last few years. The sharks and cormorant birds are killing the fish. Cormorants, like the sharks, are also protected. Those things can flat wipe out bait and small game fish.
Some apex predators are a good thing but at the level our large coastal species of sharks are at...not so much.Sharks and cormerants....? That's what yall are gonna blame?? If they are effecting the fishing that bad the real question is why can't our fish stocks hold up against natural predation? We shouldnt have to kill off every predator to have decent fishing. I'm also assuming y'all know that having Apex predators is a very good thing for the system as a whole. Sharks and birds wouldnt be an issue if we had decent fisheries. Y'all are pointing the finger at the wrong issue.
Some apex predators are a good thing but at the level our large coastal species of sharks are at...not so much.
I take it you've never seen the plague of migrating cormerants we get each fall and spring at the coast. Flocks that extend as far as the eye can see in either direction. If you dont think that impacts our fisheries long term you need your head examined.
Nobody is saying these are the sole reasons for fisheries declines, but each has an impact and it's larger than most think.
Some apex predators are a good thing but at the level our large coastal species of sharks are at...not so much.
I take it you've never seen the plague of migrating cormerants we get each fall and spring at the coast. Flocks that extend as far as the eye can see in either direction. If you dont think that impacts our fisheries long term you need your head examined.
Nobody is saying these are the sole reasons for fisheries declines, but each has an impact and it's larger than most think.
Next time you’re in Dare/Hyde County, ask a few seasoned watermen their opinion on the sharks and cormorants, and what the difference is today compared to years ago. There were no cormorants and the sharks were “managed”.
This directed at me?